From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112183: Move forward-whitespace, forward-symbol, forward-same-syntax commands to subr.el. Use forward-symbol in supermode.el again. Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:10:12 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <871uavpy6z.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87a9plozpd.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364731840 19905 80.91.229.3 (31 Mar 2013 12:10:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:10:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 31 14:11:08 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMH6H-0004i9-NG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:11:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49103 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMH5t-0003tT-7e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:10:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56531) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMH5m-0003sy-OU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:10:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMH5g-0008IB-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:10:34 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMH5g-0008I5-9d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:10:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMH5z-0004bE-1f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:10:47 +0200 Original-Received: from pool-71-174-194-90.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([71.174.194.90]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:10:47 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by pool-71-174-194-90.bstnma.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:10:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-174-194-90.bstnma.east.verizon.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KiCaCtK6l6VC2hiVf8X09egvNTw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158494 Archived-At: On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:06:38 +0800 Leo Liu wrote: LL> On 2013-03-30 20:10 +0800, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/158448 >> >> Stefan advised it for `forward-symbol' and after looking at >> `thingatpt.el', I agreed with him. The other two (`forward-same-syntax' >> and `forward-whitespace') were very similar so I followed the same >> logic: >> >> 1) simple, generally useful, small >> >> 2) use only basic Emacs commands and no commands from `thingatpt.el' >> >> 3) seem consistent with the rest of `subr.el' >> >> Perhaps we can have `motion.el' or something, but with the current >> layout `subr.el' seems the best place. LL> You already have a nice and broad name space to work with i.e. thingatpt LL> so no need to make another one. thingatpt gives you forward and backward LL> motions and other goodies. LL> I think a better and cleaner way to do this is maybe clean up LL> thingatpt.el. Now codes are scattered everywhere which is messier in my LL> book. I explained my reasons and you've restated yours. I'll let the Emacs maintainers decide, since Stefan suggested it. I'll gladly do whatever they recommend. Ted