From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r115470: eww: exit and close actions Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:33:20 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <871u1fnxr3.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> References: <87haadq3pn.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <878uvoq0md.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <8761qso84n.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387042337 16720 80.91.229.3 (14 Dec 2013 17:32:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 17:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 14 18:32:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrt4f-0004ks-Gc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 18:32:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48126 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrt4f-0002mp-4b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:32:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53660) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrt4X-0002mV-Tk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:32:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrt4R-0004pd-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:32:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qe0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22f]:65446) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrt4R-0004pE-Gn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:32:07 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qe0-f47.google.com with SMTP id t7so2715491qeb.34 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 09:32:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=YrHocmCoNLfcKktY+SdTx8CqoHRZ7cOaMG1hgUw7ZlI=; b=Y775vauLUTdzzQanxPfvOkRM3x9k8dFAq4qI9LcJW+2TTH7bI5EvyFp1tfXlZ2fTR5 /l+yHr3bClrSHyV9O9yH4V6UvxER79wSG+Qw7w9qgK6Hm8+B4mVyoqyWdnwkwfFThrtG GSieDGj8C/ZmxM2+4nxx+B8Io6t91yRULCeWE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=YrHocmCoNLfcKktY+SdTx8CqoHRZ7cOaMG1hgUw7ZlI=; b=j2OPFvL/nm35HTKmzkDPtpZdEEWRLZipiYlD3aOgjgvxS7tWJaHN6yTjj64ISmnK2r Wxz4eLtVb5aC70RRRecBYzyygBDt9UXFkQw8lEqTBj5bBywTieOKAeqLSJKxRBtoUJmh CGhfVn1v9zxLQolA7HPvDSciL7X2xKlsX6nZbu+G9F6h6iWDwn4DYL1/ABrczaeZZDLX wv+Zui4IJyFsHafqlBTnQoWP6jYoipalPUH5czbFZion3pJNY+4UK5f5oauM8jbiNfVK ne8Gi9xPGMTQtWiS+MXV/2n+xxItz4znOu0KJ8+YJSQlBMrhhmVQCOyt8lSA2mQXkySI rtEw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnaQMHUS5mS6xWb/+Gppn6JCJyrNQp0IFvp2nTiIweLu07AxAEFBJJ66XjHLZMIo2T4133w X-Received: by 10.224.1.198 with SMTP id 6mr16973118qag.19.1387042326933; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 09:32:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from flea.lifelogs.com (c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [98.229.61.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z16sm21899229qab.3.2013.12.14.09.32.06 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Dec 2013 09:32:06 -0800 (PST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:07:00 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166394 Archived-At: On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:07:00 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I agree the current implementation is suboptimal but your problem is >> with the fundamental idea of separating "close" from "exit." SM> No, the problem is with calling eww-close instead of quit-window, and SM> with calling eww-exit instead of kill-this-buffer. To me, this is SM> just obfuscation. I understand we disagree on this. >> - revert back to `q' being `quit-window', SM> Yes. As I said elsewhere, I think this binding should basically be SM> inherited from special-mode-map. >> - implement some way to quit all eww windows for privacy and security SM> If someone wants that, I'm not opposed to it (tho "quitting all windows" SM> won't give you any privacy or security benefits, so it will presumably SM> do something else). But I wouldn't call it "exit". The name should SM> instead include something like clear/wipe/flush/... I will wait for Lars to make the final decision. If he agrees with you, going to just `special-mode-map' is probably the best way, and we can forget about special "quit all" functionality. Ted