From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Multi-line input Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 01:43:50 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <871todslvt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87fvds2r5i.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87zjbokx0t.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <546E1845.2010301@dancol.org> <87oarjklgc.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417823135 11317 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 23:45:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 23:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 00:45:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx2Yw-0005Ld-S0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:45:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52922 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx2Yw-0002UR-F7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 18:45:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53388) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx2Yc-0002Qh-Dv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 18:45:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx2YS-0000g7-Kh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 18:45:06 -0500 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.222.226]:44778 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx2YS-0000g2-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 18:44:56 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.222.226]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5396348328E73; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:44:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:03:53 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 69.163.222.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179073 Archived-At: > As mentioned earlier, I'm not convinced S-RET is a great idea, since > I think it's more beneficial to get people to learn about C-q. The only downside of S-RET is that it's not available on a tty. But on a graphical display S-RET is a common key to insert a newline. > I do realize that we have a problem in C-q because you need C-q C-j > rather than C-q RET (the same problem recently pointed out by Raman > w.r.t to the ?\n in electric-indent-chars which affects the behavior of > RET rather than that of C-j). `electric-indent-mode' has a similar problem. NEWS.24 recommends using `C-j' to insert a newline: *** `electric-indent-mode' is now enabled by default. Typing RET reindents the current line and indents the new line. `C-j' inserts a newline but does not indent. But e.g. in *scratch* typing `C-j' evaluates the last expression. S-RET could help here as well, after agreeing on its universal meaning of inserting a newline.