From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why aren't ELPA packages compressed? Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 07:12:54 -0600 Message-ID: <871tiv5fs9.fsf@tromey.com> References: <21831.40666.491742.170889@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430831841 15523 80.91.229.3 (5 May 2015 13:17:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 13:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 05 15:17:06 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypcie-0003oB-St for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 May 2015 15:17:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39502 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypcie-0003kk-59 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 May 2015 09:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54066) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypcf1-00074a-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2015 09:13:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypcew-0002vh-56 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2015 09:13:19 -0400 Original-Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([67.222.33.93]:57109) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypcev-0002uw-TV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2015 09:13:14 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 10548 invoked by uid 0); 5 May 2015 13:13:07 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 5 May 2015 13:13:07 -0000 Original-Received: from box522.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.122]) by CMOut01 with id QDCv1q00a2f2jeq01DCyDT; Tue, 05 May 2015 07:13:05 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Zox+dbLG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:117 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=udL4O0NGDEAA:10 a=zstS-IiYAAAA:8 a=PnD2wP_eR3oA:10 a=zxv4jSZfPCgA:10 a=h1PgugrvaO0A:10 a=7mOBRU54AAAA:8 a=AsHJdKnKmrhPPTmoF2wA:9 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tromey.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=S9hJgxyc3aSlZ9CA/0y72FxP/M+nL2xqYdndV9aah1w=; b=bSSX031afz5LTxlRwyR/TilmCB6aq1emOC4nijYUc4xUBM3YUAeelMrl3W3NplikQD3swtfVe89oTeTCckVIwpqUCFNW6Z5yxMRmvvj0D8NM/LvCribxY9M92nDrmewH; Original-Received: from [71.218.201.176] (port=42633 helo=pokyo) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypcef-0007uC-5m; Tue, 05 May 2015 07:12:57 -0600 X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: <21831.40666.491742.170889@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (Ulrich Mueller's message of "Mon, 4 May 2015 18:31:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Identified-User: {36111:box522.bluehost.com:elynrobi:tromey.com} {sentby:smtp auth 71.218.201.176 authed with tom+tromey.com} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 67.222.33.93 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186228 Archived-At: >>>>> "Ulrich" == Ulrich Mueller writes: Ulrich> Some packages in ELPA have sizes around 5 MB, so I wonder why they can Ulrich> only be downloaded as uncompressed tarballs? Ulrich> Everything that is necessary to handle compressed files should already Ulrich> be there in Emacs. When I wrote package.el, one goal was that installing a package would not require any external tool. So, e.g., that is why I chose tar archives and not some other format -- tar-mode.el can unpack them without a helper. >From NEWS I see that zlib was added in 24. So, that's the reason -- at the time it wasn't available. It sounds like it is optional, though, which seems like a problem for users. Tom