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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Unary /
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 16:02:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871tcww7q9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy4f46zbi.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:31:02 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Ah, so there will not be a lot of legacy code relying on the current
>> semantics.  This would be
> [...]
>> Since there are about a dozen apparently unrelated changes, the question
>> is whether anything specifically relied on this change.
>
> I don't remember the specific case that motivated the change.
> IIRC I changed it mostly because the limitation was arbitrary (as you
> can see in the patch, which doesn't actually change the code).
>
> I didn't know that CL had decided to give a completely different meaning
> to the unary / than the natural generalization of the behavior of (/ X1
> X2 ... Xn).  It seems backward to me, so I guess my sense of aesthetics
> would incite me to simply revert my patch, adding a comment that for the
> semantics of the unary / there is a conflict between the natural choice
> and CL compatibility.

Should we do that for unary - as well?  It's exactly the same situation.

(- 3) is not the same as (- 3 0) but as (- 0 3), just like (/ 3.0) is
not the same as (/ 3.0 1.0) but as (/ 1.0 3.0).

That is, given only a single argument, you get the inverse element for
addition/multiplication, respectively.

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-15 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-15 11:30 Unary / David Kastrup
2015-10-15 11:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-15 11:54   ` David Kastrup
2015-10-15 12:00   ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-15 12:17     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-15 13:31       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-15 14:02         ` David Kastrup [this message]
2015-10-15 18:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-15 19:20             ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-15 12:09 ` Andreas Schwab

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