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From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Window splitting issues with margins
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:14:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871tbux3vb.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5644A2AC.3080703@gmx.at>


On Do, Nov 12 2015, martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> wrote:
>  > I think it would make more sense to reduce the margin before reducing
>  > the text width.
>
> The margins you set above become a window property.  If after C-x 3 you
> do C-x 1 your are left with the reduced margins which might not be what
> you want.  Deciding when and how to auto-adjust margins is not trivial.
> I would do that in ‘visual-fill-column’.

Except that I don't know if any other package is also using the margin
and should perhaps assume a minimum width larger than 0. Right now,
visual-fill-column will happily set the margin to 0 if the window width
is smaller than the requested text width.

> I agree with this observation.  ‘window-splittable-p’ is asymmetric:
> When it checks the width, it uses the text area while for the height it
> uses the total area (inlcuding mode and header lines, scrollbar, divider
> ...).  If you want to change this, please provide a patch.  I certainly
> won't object it but am afraid that some people eventually will complain
> because one of their packages then doesn't work like it used to over the
> past decades ...

Well, I've been using a modified `window-splittable-p' in my init file
for quite some time and *I* don't have any complaints. ;-)

> The greatest problem I have with a function returning the combined size
> of text area and margins is that it would leave out the fringes.  Hence
> such a function would by default _not_ return the size of a contiguous
> area on the screen which I personally would find slightly disconcerting.

True. I hadn't thought about that.

> But if you send us such a function (say ‘window-text+margins-width’)
> and nobody objects I'll install it.

I might do that, but I will think a bit about what to do with the fringes.

-- 
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-12 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-12 13:04 Window splitting issues with margins Joost Kremers
2015-11-12 14:31 ` martin rudalics
2015-11-12 16:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-12 21:38     ` Joost Kremers
2015-11-13  8:04       ` martin rudalics
2015-11-13  8:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-13 10:01         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-13 13:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-13 14:53             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-13 18:34               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-12 22:14   ` Joost Kremers [this message]
2015-11-13  8:04     ` martin rudalics
2015-11-13  8:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-13 10:02         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-14 20:34         ` Joost Kremers
2015-11-16 15:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-16 16:56             ` Joost Kremers
2015-11-16 18:56               ` martin rudalics
2015-11-16 20:11                 ` Joost Kremers
2015-11-17  8:35                   ` martin rudalics
2015-11-19 13:46                     ` Joost Kremers
2015-11-20  8:21                       ` martin rudalics
2015-11-25 13:10                         ` Joost Kremers
2015-11-24 12:59                       ` Joost Kremers
2015-11-24 19:26                         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-25 19:53                           ` Joost Kremers
2015-11-26  8:23                             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-26 15:46                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 16:58                                 ` martin rudalics
2015-11-26 17:13                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 18:04                                     ` martin rudalics
2015-11-26 18:32                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27  8:26                                         ` martin rudalics
2015-11-27  9:00                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 10:22                                             ` martin rudalics
2015-11-28 11:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-14 20:47       ` Joost Kremers
2015-11-16 17:02         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-16 10:51       ` Yuri Khan

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