From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master adcf904: Add bignum support in Tramp Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:37:48 +0200 Message-ID: <871saiqwf7.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20180828142710.26824.71640@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20180828142711.B6D2E209A6@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87a7p6r1tw.fsf@gmail.com> <387e83c8-9768-79a7-dca1-5d1cbf5fb491@cs.ucla.edu> <875zzur022.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1535474861 24899 195.159.176.226 (28 Aug 2018 16:47:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 16:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Albinus , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 28 18:47:37 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fuh9V-0006Nq-3L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:47:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39034 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fuhBb-0005e0-AO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 12:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53223) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fuhBK-0005Km-Ou for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 12:49:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fuh0E-00048a-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 12:38:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::435]:35577) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fuh06-00040g-Gi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 12:37:58 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id j26-v6so2195675wre.2 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:37:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tkyAsWyAtdGoevUtuqFQQrP+07VA3LGgxeY1WMHKrpU=; b=q6c0ne5HAgt6cScR1AM0SarXQMDvL1zF3GTsn/vl6c4CXPGZi9IkQ8SKh/4p4WnAYd aVav5lp1WUsamD9RBL7XjmfE2CGphgndf1oXmGbMJYnz+jWR+LBFz1AwaUmwumyhPUYJ Ue1iqV5nzkxLg3hBVDrs/g7sWS5GdXlOEO58rnz81zsf1Vz/PiGmMeB0aLobk5SpaxLz uNiTuDHpkLKTcMNmOo2pt3oIi6HVFoIVF43WPNZHPpi5NOnDzYd/o7O/nBUQTPHLqiti CXox/eGIqLTmoX7+kThtjIU/oFtcZ7xhxsREyfmhkkxMOWGT4GSVq6XfpldtUlFI7Uzn Vp6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tkyAsWyAtdGoevUtuqFQQrP+07VA3LGgxeY1WMHKrpU=; b=FA5PJGDHLFLsHxFlPpJp6Rx4wcxKvbjbMiLYGkhkH21hJy3G+WDbh2hjAA7yiXX+Rv mYSlAirX4BtZBq9Y2clu0w3xb3SMWO44BZ1d4VLwLnRxIgBqa6zmSMEHIuFr3QYoHNrM /sjyNRHAwZUgohRK6WBhLV8X8UDcHKuGhmFORTmyE65P/+KE0LnxfAkSuFu5mZMRpe2l F6/Umh4mv+6lErNN5RgAN5HPwgM2Tj+/aqLik/2MzXDxebWuADDNsSXTwb3mLhJtE0Y1 MXdI75H4MxB6Tgyh3BBWYsc4NN5MyB3Gq2MdqBki3gKVNKSMx7gblEAcI4KrYf2l+J1O kpvw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Co7rrg7+WIvVxlZCvGlTex1jWXVAISGUU5UfxYk3f3TLl/ze48 L7EBOOArubS8S3tuUiKbDXo6AB8W X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbbbGYUfObt/3nzYYwWaVVZ1YtXaMxKDmWNgiyTCRx0xeBsCgaQROnzTJ7kAimmL2UBlOvM6A== X-Received: by 2002:adf:b456:: with SMTP id v22-v6mr1669699wrd.187.1535474270345; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l130-v6sm3421604wmd.16.2018.08.28.09.37.48 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: (Paul Eggert's message of "Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:24:39 -0700") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::435 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229019 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > Robert Pluim wrote: >> Then how come NEWS talks about bignump and fixnump? > > Because some contributors thought that bignump and fixnump might be > useful convenience functions for Lisp programmers. They're not, but I > lost that argument. They're currently useful to me with the calc bignum conversion, but won't be needed once that=CA=BCs done, the end result will just use 'integerp'. > If it were up to me, I wouldn't mention these functions in NEWS or > document them, as they cause more trouble and confusion than they > cure. Worrying about the distinction between bignums and fixnums > unnecessarily complicates Lisp programmers' lives, and we shouldn't > encourage it. I agree with that sentiment. Robert