From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 7725fbc: Remove the Date header from message-draft-headers Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:41:35 -0700 Message-ID: <871rply2hs.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <20200320184014.23541.93637@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200320184015.83F4A20E43@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87sgi2c0q3.fsf@gnus.org> <87a74ayh5x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <83imiydv15.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="92676"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 21 19:42:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jFj4v-000O1y-GR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 19:42:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39730 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jFj4u-00084D-JS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:42:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35335) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jFj4N-0007fi-3x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jFj4M-00050K-2u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:42:03 -0400 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:43616 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jFj45-0004lz-U0; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:41:46 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AE51FAB67; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 18:41:37 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83imiydv15.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 21 Mar 2020 09:30:46 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 52.70.2.18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:245636 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Eric Abrahamsen >> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:12:26 -0700 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> > Oh, and one other thing -- perhaps this should be mentioned in NEWS? >> >> I've never really known what's NEWS-worthy and what isn't. My gut tells >> me that changing an option's default -- when the new value doesn't >> represent an addition or removal of features -- isn't worth it. > > My rule is: if there's a doubt, then there's no doubt, and the change > should be in NEWS. The reason is simple: there are no downsides to > putting unimportant stuff there, but users do get annoyed by changes > that aren't called out there. So, a net win. Sounds like a fine rule! I'll put it in now.