From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tramp defaults Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 17:50:12 +0200 Message-ID: <871rjcgte3.fsf@gmx.de> References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <83lfhnnew7.fsf@gnu.org> <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> <20200906203807.u237c3h22oxwtmba@Ergus> <87wo15adtj.fsf@rabkins.net> <87tuw8kirh.fsf@localhost> <87k0x4d3up.fsf_-_@gmx.de> <87o8mgjzkj.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28699"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, rms@gnu.org, Yoni Rabkin , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 17:53:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfvZ-0007LK-Ch for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 17:53:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48026 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfvY-0008PZ-8z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:53:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFft0-0007aT-Ng for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:50:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:53569) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFfsy-000318-L2; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 11:50:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1599580214; bh=Hclxdg0SL5/+Nf8OIOeclLj7PEa5IV0+rGZ0E8VcsTU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Ht7KQgZ7oGeAj+o2gPPR1gmc9FTrb7daVDy4adwdixFNPfFaHWRA/K0YHnr/PqB5e niW1YCIKQuSn8EyCeVm237R4LdSJkNCWk+IzRXnx/pRIgUgSrTWG3/ivJkwCNB7SBv fKSq+5a+sywxNZTz8D6U/vw+ykifldxHcOEgUN68= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([212.86.41.194]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MrQIv-1krCTq3NIN-00oSmh; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 17:50:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o8mgjzkj.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Tue, 08 Sep 2020 19:08:28 +0800") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:B1rigRy+tJWnvhgocQtkDlxcMmfFGbweXZnmqBRsVGy0LUp2qfY /nMT+NrnY3/8JkI2edeMHNIl+j7pOMBUoR5ZNMnmu7I8Pji9U/W7bAaLSb1CZz4u+nhWVwk urVcapLOTs1aX/n0IZPGr0UfkA2W4/IrG2A9C28NmQb74b+BbbL9GQZu8jkkInS8ZvCr6ve 00FC1GVfZF9jCLCrLlNHA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:dFe20xcRFw0=:fnmO9L3uFTU5I8NQzoWGLb oTouDLzD0xR5RRjOGpS1um3zuYAP4r2WGhhwYPswEDu9VP75todz6ecInkuUX02Kw/I5plkwT UiTiPAPYp8AEukkqF+uBBVBMdGcwD5HE4ImqsgZXh/to2OkGawblpz01HrcFI2BKzkE2N3Cib bhJv0TbEGJSnZjFiifr1pGipAZivqGfelCDrJZDtoVqH1diKxWo9bYcf7/m2K/CguMPohTHlm ZuQeJtaIifhD7r8NdfOyxF4xUm4EDHzYkv0lT+oe8mSdypqKIoqsZqaCvUzvO4ej9o1ormGce fSrD22wLPZOb3gxPwKggTWhJeF1QrFGKQYmKcWs3iu5OjbD40cohaPVCbwZj1Wv/peKTlUiNQ OFtjE+5nczkTp0OUl+3antNDGkpOKTO+YfKgknrFr5xVwMbD4tdOZhMPzZzlxH00EyRj3LWz5 q0g1DuaBBFArNn2+lO6wajnTe8FgZUOXYCazkitsQlrjAHGMOQOVtKvDXDCUOZOa/TZW7HylJ HbdWuEE+nu0gpta34QUU20P5ZB6JN6FJPHRcbngSSjbkB2pH/Yo4WtxbwKbBEgY5QPMlX2WOo Hsh7dil2+snAFM0DnCxC+h2fP1zaBTaBEOmVGESULJ/mN/cnl+ae0ElCou/qOst+Pk1GW3fv/ so7ggiBzhNtJvnNbN6hvLGNa7EIGPneVUH/jwPLuVY1sn0OlXJqRprWF1hsixJtA319GS9j/L FZPEpr8OZ+Rqeb6O3LxHK9NZShkX4HClu/rt22TUnc2n4nHMdFmngeqfz0LRRgslyebAazvd Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/08 11:50:18 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254753 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko writes: Hi Ihor, > I am not proposing to decide on concrete "better defaults" at this > point. Looking at multiple threads discussing the defaults, there will > be no agreement on this. Instead, I propose to create a general > framework allowing people to create such defaults (maybe multiples of > defaults): I do not oppose. But this doesn't give me yet an idea what to do wrt Tramp concretely. > Best, > Ihor Best regards, Michael.