From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 17:24:18 +0300 Message-ID: <871rjbrpt9.fsf@gkayaalp.com> References: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83ft7rkp9e.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17444"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 28.0.50 Cc: self@gkayaalp.com, casouri@gmail.com, praharsharmm@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 16:28:02 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kG14r-0004Pe-Dx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 16:28:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50360 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kG14q-0005Ve-G2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50064) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kG11Q-0008Mn-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:24:28 -0400 Original-Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:53495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kG11O-0004Rs-CI; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:24:28 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 31.206.236.86 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [31.206.236.86]) (Authenticated sender: self@gkayaalp.com) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C609620004; Wed, 9 Sep 2020 14:24:20 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: <83ft7rkp9e.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.70.183.200; envelope-from=self@gkayaalp.com; helo=relay7-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/09 10:24:22 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254871 Archived-At: On 2020-09-09 17:18 +03, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > The reason we didn't put these on the splash screen is because we have > a menu bar, where everyone can find these popular commands without the > need to read any instructions. Who will not know nowadays that to > open a file, one need to click on "File" and look in the menu that > drops down from that? It looks like some of the starter kits / distributions are disabling menu and toolbars. We might ask them that they at least don=E2=80=99t disable menu-bar-mode by default if that=E2=80=99s the case. --=20 =C4=B0. G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F Kayaalp / @cadadr / pgp: 024C 30DD 597D 142B 49AC 40EB 465C D949 B101 2427