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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Memory usage report
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:47:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871rizjogr.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r1qz48h3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:42:16 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Yes, but that's a negative evidence, so it doesn't give any hints
> regarding where to look for the problem.

It's negative evidence, but that's useful, too, sometimes.

>> But for this command to be useful in general, I think we'll have to
>> expose more data from the C layer.  What caches and stuff do we have on
>> the C layer that can take a significant amount of memory?  The image
>> and font caches?  Uhm...  Anything more?
>
> We have a legion of them.

That can have significant memory?

> The problem with reporting that memory is that we'd need to monitor
> calls that free memory as well, and "forget" the chunks that have been
> freed.  At which point we will probably realize that there are
> memory-debugging libraries out there, and it's probably easier to
> build Emacs with one of them instead of rolling out our own.

I don't think we have to go that far to be useful.  Reporting that the
image cache takes foo GB will help somebody.

>> I'd also like the display to list, say, the ten "largest variables".
>
> Which variables did you have in mind in this context?  Can you show an
> example?

It'd just traverse all the variables and compute the "largest" ones.

>> And I'd also like to do the same with buffer-local variables, in
>> case a lot of data is hiding there (for instance, the eww-history,
>> which caches old rendered versions of web pages, and may be large).
>
> But those are part of the GC report, aren't they?

Yes.  It's a more detailed look at what's holding on to the memory.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-18 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-17 19:09 Memory usage report Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-17 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-17 19:28   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18  6:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 10:51       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 11:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 11:47           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2020-09-18 12:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 12:59               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 13:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 13:32                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-18 14:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 14:08                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 15:15                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-18 15:19                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 15:44                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 14:27                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 14:48                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 15:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 14:30                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-18 15:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 15:37                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 15:50                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 14:23                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 16:14                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-18 19:15                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19  0:29                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-19  7:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 14:29                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 14:46                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 14:54                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 15:34                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 15:40                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-20  9:10                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 14:34                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-19 14:53                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 15:14                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-19 15:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 15:45                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-19 16:05                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 15:43                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 16:08                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-19 16:18                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-17 19:45 ` Stefan Monnier

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