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From: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [feature/internal-msys] thoughts of a more function windows package
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 23:34:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871re9nc3e.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6sydjvw.fsf@telefonica.net> ("Óscar Fuentes"'s message of "Sun, 24 Jan 2021 23:56:19 +0100")

Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:

> Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk> writes:
>
>> But, mingw64 does not have all the packages I need.
>
> Ok, here goes a data point:
>
>> How do people use Emacs on windows?
>
> I install MSYS2 and execute a shell script that installs this
> packages:
>
> universal-ctags-git ag putty-ssh aspell aspell-en aspell-es diffutils
>
> (the scripts prepends the names listed above with the corresponding
> mingw-w64-i686/x86_64 prefix). Then I install emacs with `pacman`,
> either from MSYS2 binary repository or from the packages I build.

In your case, you are using msys effectively as an installer, to install
mingw64 packages. Likewise, I presume, with Emacs? This seems to come in
both an msys2 and mingw64 package.

Any reason for putty rather than openssh?


>> I mean, do they install find,
>
> I don't use it. I don't use it on GNU/Linux either (I work 99% of the
> time on GNU/Linux).

Oh, I'm a find junkie.

>> ls,
>
> Is it necessary?

Not sure. I thought dired used it, at least if it's there but maybe not.


>> git,
>
> Git for Windows.
>
>> aspell
>
> See above.
>
>> and all the rest by hand?
>
> On my case, only Git for Windows and MSYS2 are installed by hand.
>
> BTW, Git for Windows is also based on MSYS2: it installs the required
> pieces that are required for running the parts of git that still depend
> on POSIX.
>
> It theory, instead of Git for Windows I could also run MSYS2's own
> git.exe setting magit-git-executable and vc-git-program, without adding
> MSYS2 /bin directory to PATH, but last time I tried it was somewhat
> slower than Git for Windows, which is slow enough itself. Also, the
> later comes with some goodies built-in, such as git-svn. MSYS2 git
> package requires about 30 MB, while Git for Windows 240.

Yes, I hear that magit is difficult to use on Windows. I don't know if
that is fixable within Emacs, or if it is fundamental to Windows.



> I execute runemacs.exe from wathever/msys64/mingw64/bin. emacs.el sets
> PATH and exec-path:
>
> (defun anade-a-path (path)
>   (setenv "PATH" (concat (getenv "PATH") path-separator dir))
>   (setq exec-path (append exec-path (list dir))))
>
> (anade-a-path (file-name-directory (car command-line-args)))
>
> With this I can execute programs on emacs.exe directory (that is,
> whatever/msys64/mingw64/bin) with no problems.

That's a good data point! Thank you.

Phil



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-24 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-09 19:57 [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted Phillip Lord
2021-01-09 20:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 21:31   ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10  8:49     ` Arash Esbati
2021-01-10 15:19       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 16:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 18:23       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 19:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 19:20           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-10 19:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 20:52           ` `gzip` dependency (was: [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted) Stefan Monnier
2021-01-11  3:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-11 10:00               ` `gzip` dependency Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 15:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-11 14:59               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-11 15:15                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 15:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-20 19:29             ` [feature/internal-msys] thoughts of a more function windows package Phillip Lord
2021-01-21 12:36               ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 16:11                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-21 18:22                 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 18:44                   ` phillip.lord
2021-01-23  2:51                     ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-21 18:53                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-21 14:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-21 16:44                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-21 20:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-21 21:37                     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-22  7:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-22 16:14                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-22 17:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 22:13                             ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-24 22:56                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-24 23:34                                 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2021-01-25  0:12                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-25 15:24                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 19:49                                     ` chad
2021-01-25 19:57                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 20:42                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-25 22:13                                         ` chad
2021-01-25 22:28                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26  3:26                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 15:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 20:01                                 ` Richard Copley
2021-01-25 21:17                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-26  3:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26  5:43                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-26  6:56                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26  7:37                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-26  9:57                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 15:58                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-01-27 14:55                                             ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-27 18:36                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 16:35                                   ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-26 10:43                                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-03 11:34               ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-20  9:25                 ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-20 14:38                   ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-21 15:51                     ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-21 17:11                       ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-24 11:46                       ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-26 13:27                         ` Phillip Lord
2021-04-21 17:19                     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-21 23:03                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-04-22 19:44                         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-04-22 14:55                       ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-11  9:59           ` [feature/dll-only-windows] A new windows build, comments wanted Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 15:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-11 18:29               ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-09 21:36   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-10 16:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 18:34       ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-09 21:51   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-10  3:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 15:09     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 19:06       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-11  9:47         ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 11:01           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-11 16:29             ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-11 17:21               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-10 15:14   ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10 17:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 20:47 ` Alan Third
2021-01-09 21:33   ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-10  0:04     ` Alan Third
2021-01-10  3:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 15:43 ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-12  6:01   ` Corwin Brust
2021-01-12  9:48     ` Phillip Lord
2021-01-12 10:27       ` Corwin Brust

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