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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281169 Archived-At: EZ> issue. SQLite needs UTF-8, but our internal representation is a EZ> superset of UTF-8 Why you feel the need to raise a 0.001% exception to a project that has thus far gotten 0.000% off the ground is the very soul of premature optimization. As with the interminable forge-versus-email thread, this thread is worthless without a PoC implementation. (FWIW, I'm in the store-things-as-ascii-s-expressions camp).