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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283699 Archived-At: Tim Cross writes: > In the same way that lawyers don't have formal experience in how free > software projects work, developers don't have formal experience in how > the legal system and courts work. It is illogical to try and argue that > because lawyers don't understand software projects, we should ignore > their advice on legal matters. We should ignore development/coding > advice from lawyers and ignore legal advice from developers and coders! I agree, though on a slight tangent, some lawyers are also pretty good programmers :)