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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	 Noah Friedman <noah@splode.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 21:17:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871r0ehl3f.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh79a3jyl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2022 08:14:13 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> Some of those specs talk about interaction with other programs, in
> which case we should arguably follow them to be good neighbors.  But
> other parts talk about the UI and only affect the contract between the
> application and the user.  We have no obligation to follow those
> parts, tho of course it might make a lot of sense to make the default
> behavior follow those specs to avoid surprising the user.
>
> The change under discussion here was motivated by an optimization, so
> presumably it should not affect the interface between the user and
> Emacs, but only between Emacs and the system.  So IIUC this is a part
> where the spec is indeed very relevant and we should strive to follow
> it.  But I must say I don't know which part of the spec the change is
> related to.  Could you clarify?

It's not related.  Here I'm trying to convince people to not enable
`select-enable-primary' lightly, since that breaks other programs.

There seems to be a lot of bad advice floating around, and that's one of
them.

> These seem to only affect the contract between the user and Emacs, so if
> the users change them to their default, that can only hurt themselves.
>
> And AFAICT our default settings don't violate those parts 3, 4, and 5,
> so we're fine.
>
> And of course I still can't see in which way this relates to
> commit 99c637499e.

It doesn't relate, but I thought you were referring to the choice of
selection in the message I replied to earlier.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-07 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-06  3:39 recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard Noah Friedman
2022-02-06  7:37 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06  9:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  9:34     ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 10:18   ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 16:09   ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07  1:11     ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  2:05       ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07  2:59         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  5:04           ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07  5:17             ` Yuri Khan
2022-02-07  5:23               ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07  5:31             ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 22:39   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07  1:12     ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  2:53       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07  3:11         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  3:41           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07  3:48             ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  4:05               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07  4:44                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  4:57                   ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-07  5:29                     ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  5:47                       ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-07  5:52                       ` tomas
2022-02-07  6:43                         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  6:57                           ` tomas
2022-02-07 13:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 13:18                         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 12:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 12:56                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 13:14               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07 13:17                 ` Po Lu [this message]
2022-02-07 13:50                   ` Don't change `select-enable-primary` (was: recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard) Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07 13:55                     ` Don't change `select-enable-primary` Po Lu
2022-02-07  1:11   ` recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard Tim Cross
2022-02-07  2:31     ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2022-02-06  9:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-06 11:07 xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 11:21 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:37   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 11:47     ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:55       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 12:01         ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 12:06           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 12:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 12:15           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 12:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 12:15         ` tomas
2022-02-06 12:20           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 15:20   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07  1:18     ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 13:04       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07 13:15         ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 19:47           ` James Cloos
2022-02-07 19:53             ` tomas
2022-02-06 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier

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