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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292861 Archived-At: Hi Philip, See my response to your comments below. But more importantly, since now the plan is to add those features to python.el, which is built-in but also extracted to be distributed on ELPA for Emacs =E2=89=A5 24.4 --- have you thought of a scheme whereby one = could use new Emacs features on those kinds of packages, but then automatically stick a (require 'compat) at the top of their ELPA version? On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 at 17:53, Philip Kaludercic = wrote: > Why do you depend on Emacs 28.1? Setting aside convenience functions > like length=3D, all you really need is project-files from Emacs 27.1, > right? And if you add a dependency on the right version of project.el > that implemented that function, you could even reduce the (transitive) > dependency to Emacs 26.1. I'm also using the MODES argument of the `interactive' form. But yes, I have no good reason to require 28 other than being unfamiliar/not remembering the history of the new features, which makes it hard to "promise" compatibility with older Emacsen. > I am not familiar with isort, and I suppose there are other lightweight > Emacs users like me who haven't heard of it either. It might therefore > be good to add a link to some documentation, especially on how to > install it since that can sometimes be tricky when using Python. Sure, I'll will do that.