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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292878 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lynn Winebarger >> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 08:14:10 -0400 >> >> The core emacs lisp libraries are riddled with strings that are erroneously treated as docstrings in dump >> mode, which causes problems in the build when, say, format gets a 0 as its template string in a macro >> expansion. > > Please show several examples, as I don't think I understand the issue > well enough to have an opinion. > > Thanks. I think the problem is this: (format args...) will result in (format 0 args...) during dumping. To be honest, I don't see the importance of the issue. We only have to make sure such code never exists in code loaded prior to dumping.