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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296962 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: > Again `inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' does not disable automatic > trampoline native compilation :/ > > BTW I think most of people refers to what was controlled by > `native-comp-deferred-compilation' as a jitter mechanism, so I think a > better name would have been `inhibit-native-jit-compilation'. I wish > this change was not rushed. I don't think `inhibit-native-jit-compilation' conveys anything more to the user than `inhibit-automatic-native-compilation'? Andrea Corallo writes: > We can discuss code also on branches, there's no need to install changes > on master to discuss them. > > I'm back now after a long weekend and your proposal of introduciung > `inhibit-native-compilation' is form 2 days and 1 hour ago. Sorry but I > don't want to feel that changes can be rushed into Emacs code and in > order to partecipate to the discussion people can't have some time off. Development takes place on the "master" branch -- code appearing there does not curtail further discussion.