From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding use-package to core Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:39:52 +0100 Message-ID: <871qq4kz07.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87fsemjs7v.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edu5izi9.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yfhiv8p.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3432"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: xenodasein@tutanota.de, "xenodasein--- viaEmacs development discussions." , eliz@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 15 16:54:55 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ouyH0-0000fX-5d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:54:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouy2p-0001Jm-AJ; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 10:40:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouy2h-0001Gw-Rt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 10:40:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouy2e-0000ch-Hb; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 10:40:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1668526793; bh=02gWw7kce7HdlYwn3Nuibc/JZ6JGJykjZkoS9491edE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=UCwvOpG1Ki5FiS3aK4xmCApU5jqNOFnHnxk/8VGiDjAaoNVDysnyXnYLXrdQudDlE 68VmO7/qzJL9hRzJrwQq5u+vqVpzp1ZAHbf0kIo615P7tnkwbK/Q/FqOwW5rxbj8NG 4jdaZ+T6ePhfLKiZAEBkTBvW1vC4hdF+GsZOxDWOX/UBaPgiht9HZ6NF1GjZfpeb2Y 1fOaDcPXjZA89EEKxiufLGwo20PfXrzu9XHAnTbUOyHArRtTQz0IJd7O58A5fz3fG/ B4Z2u+8MadWwPHSC7cn9Pe/Q6Hsbfs9Ld1TXoeuWJzY0OCtAR9W7Zu2zOFiblVoyoJ p2nqKdBk4Y83Q== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.39.14]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MDQeK-1omgaE3llW-00AX1a; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:39:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <875yfhiv8p.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Mon, 14 Nov 2022 20:19:34 +0800") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:RpFsqIHXP2mUHK60IZ3VmJjiwhwTbMxzf+MlH0krAvQ/I++9aae kEWxlp+lHZw0Q+rDm3EP3iO+dkfbDX12eSp0EbNJI3/jz/NRIhzOGeZHZuu8Iy6U5XF/Jq0 2+ebN+KxVK5ggqoRTptLm4F4kQOXh9h4HWiVQdXnDKTwpzZqCchv+tr22jZQc1cjRvXQ9fH Tj0IuIt4v2q4SBTUtoyWg== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:tNaIRq2B3Hw=;p10mCTIjct7ctHla+Fv6TaStOTa H9UYGtsZ7avkFve+/ih4DpfiB0FjgP7M7P1gvVvaRSmS2beQzLh6mnHjhkFRBSXcM4zdrGADR FkhVuTPvU+GdWXOFm8jz0d+CXnZiuAGIbkkdk034u8isAlJrLTexDqu9Laq15rFjQMq0Pm0oI piR+SyFpOuDq2usfXQg/n+oMTB5UJhhQyrI0KqO52Lm87bfnM1K/50TAYBoLxy+8kbKMKW0OM /lUM337DbO4lHuYMiLw37u6untjCylWGJ6SUmWeKL/jef2brNCwUPzdOrCQQoU4PWUvdTYMMN 86VL3MYMV2VSm7ok4Z1/A7JEyyOnVpJF6lxIfl3G6sYXwyt0n94S46K2Zc/4bThGlmsFaoMXD mhax2sL2mfnDRYy+ZXUczTO2C+yym89l+MGoOlvn5Zdf4Xbl9e9NLfX3K9gSlnmH/1MBF1k6a q+HgPJC39FJ57tg9XndepyBHJAFG+qQSBBi4c5Fw4zWnWmrPF0qL4zONRXLfzUHJzBywLi0wa +Sz0WpicIX08d9FkqYU4LB3cZ+YxCV+FO5s37nefqasoSOa7yEVTz0pBgvSg8E8UYsMjBV2w+ f1xmvtTQohwnRT/9r5Kk1AlkCFvnTEGySwBvR4w2BOJCGWE851g1B8xp77MRXls1BSmC47UIW KydYFV6T1/fUYkoCxSD9tvClHgnTjmZSLSfEE2aVYZXeVwGXYsSSLict2qXe3jnXJfcbUjAjc AioUb65v1Xi1KqDPWnAP12N/zYVoxsitu3NyTv4InWp29Uata0y49myx2Z2XB355h69tLrRL Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.19; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299852 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: Hi, >> Crucial point here being Michael A. actually does the hard work and >> TRAMP is not one of the orphans. > > And Michael is the TRAMP maintainer, who asked that TRAMP be included in > Emacs. Just like John. Completely unrelated, and I say it just for the archives: Integration of Tramp into Emacs 22 was negotiated by Kai Grossjohann, the that-time maintainer of Tramp. 20+ years ago. Best regards, Michael.