From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: refcard sources in Org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 12:36:33 +0000 Message-ID: <871qp2uppq.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21068"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Timothy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 14 13:37:49 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p5R1B-0005GY-42 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 13:37:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5R0K-0007Xd-6N; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:36:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5R06-0007Wk-SI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:36:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5R04-0003vu-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:36:42 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88E80240101 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 13:36:38 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1671021398; bh=YIOgpH7osF3r3F0DbqUmSqSLhH65KkTyMb3wUyqLLRo=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=qY3J91t7AqEW8HIVjvJ1yF0dwlKv7cHlL+ElYG+YXptr7x3Cb04QNCBoebOVd+UJ/ XGpK7lDcF3wp3mUTWHbEH3jm1fUnt+AVk7jUB1g/wA5YDtLs+WwwF2YHonK1hjy4Dy nNVLYHjdatsca1obFSfpEjApJFhPcZnxVDxN04is5ZlXrX1/3Ci500ccJ8krPUFTki PYZYvuvIHGO3PQjRZGCFkB6U7PVrM+701gWDYYWxqGMl0bP9WE3DH31M+kmJeYiOFq Rh2FveUm+SNhHTTJXxFKPa2W5wGiknetL1NfJ3yEdsOi+c96eiEF2QmicAOWuGsCPI HzUqtsg3i2cQA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NXFGs6fZyz9rxB; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 13:36:35 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301382 Archived-At: Hi, In Org ML, we recently had a suggestion to switch orgcard.tex source from tex to Org. https://orgmode.org/list/87mtakvq0d.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net The main argument in favour of this approach is that we can automate key binding calculation using Org macros, making it less painful to maintain the card in case if the default bindings change in future. However, the current Emacs card generation is tailored to tex. Kyle pointed out that: > Something to consider: orgcard.tex is included in the Emacs repo and > fits into their refcard machinery. If the source changes from .tex to > .org, the .org file must be included in the Emacs repo, as is done with > the .org of the manual now (bug#45143, bug#46837). Doing so would > involve extra setup and handling on the Emacs side. Even if someone on > the Org side volunteers to do that work, another case of special > handling probably wouldn't be received warmly. However, Kyle's statement is anyway just what he thinks. So, I am just going ahead and asking what Emacs devs think about this idea. Would it increase maintenance load on you? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at