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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305884 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Felician Nemeth >> Cc: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora >> Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 13:56:21 +0200 >>=20 >> I'd like to submit a new package called eglot-x to ELPA. Its commentary >> starts with: >>=20 >> ;; Eglot supports (a subset of) the Language Server Protocol. However, >> ;; there are useful protocol extensions that are not part of the >> ;; official protocol specification. Eglot-x adds support for some of >> ;; them. If you find a bug in Eglot, please, try to reproduce it >> ;; without Eglot-x, because Eglot-x is substantially modifies Eglot's >> ;; normal behavior as well. >>=20 >> Jo=C3=A3o intend to support only the standardized protocol features in >> eglot.el, but lots of LSP servers extend the protocol in their own way. >> (It was Jo=C3=A3o who suggested the package name long ago.) I considered >> eglot-x just an experiment and a learning possibility, but people seem >> to use it, so I'd like to make their life easier by this submission. > > It sounds strange to me to refuse to support LSP extensions in > eglot.el. At the very least, eglot.el could benefit from offering a > supported mechanism for adding such extensions; there should be no > need for using advice for that. > > Jo=C3=A3o, why would you not consider supporting these extensions as part > of eglot.el? I think that it makes sense to have non-standard and perhaps not even well specified (?) extensions to LSP as part of a separate package that is not part of the core, so that it can adjust to changes in the implementations that provide these extensions more quickly. I don't know what the working procedure is for LSP, but if they do get added to the standard, it should be easy to move the code from eglot-x to eglot, if the package is on GNU ELPA.