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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306032 Archived-At: > * Eli Zaretskii [2023-05-09 22:07:43 +0300]: > > The general idea is simple, indeed, but there are rocks under the > surface. > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=62762#206 > for the description of some of them. Sigh. I guess there is a reason why most Lisp software is build using Lisp-based build systems (defsystem, asdf &c) -- Sam Steingold (https://aphar.dreamwidth.org/) on Pop 22.04 (jammy) X 11.0.12101004 https://lastingimpactpsychology.com https://steingoldpsychology.com https://fairforall.org https://www.peaceandtolerance.org/ https://camera.org Software is like sex: it's better when it's free.