From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2023 18:19:24 +0000 Message-ID: <871qgen1ln.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87r0oftgye.fsf@posteo.net> <87350vt1wz.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13712"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 07 20:35:23 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qT54b-0003Ks-Qd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2023 20:35:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qT53g-00053S-1h; Mon, 07 Aug 2023 14:34:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qT53e-00053H-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2023 14:34:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qT53c-0006BY-Bq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2023 14:34:22 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 617B5240029 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2023 20:34:17 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1691433257; bh=ngC1Ew+hZ/PexteK5dIZcoB/MiPqhxYdklJysqGRBbA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=WwEf2TTHOX9AZMwEVzv+nscch6VZGLPTAAeEyu1mQiFbDP+8MJQK4bo9K8klpAhwB 8/3EIquK+TCxPkK6+ufMDFH8Pp20xJV02JBVqntP243lcCvvh91c1GUVglj2sRN/kF jtS2aJBa/lq63FyIDqcU4aYw6MDqeoTBvP8wXWEoXGV7WsRvA7eaypprjq1MXkn+Lh PIFGrlUldvMAn3B6IUm6IrLAVkpmr1+9KrVhjVJdFGEz7zFVVEh746hFQ6ntRhDVQj Q0+bFNDXyT9a/B6EDn8mkb4/ajpxHLhPyrBu0ewJgX4wNmYzTZfkqgzloSDdvcokFS PQMk+xYHyZXgQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RKQ2c2Hwzz6tvs; Mon, 7 Aug 2023 20:34:16 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <87350vt1wz.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=thievol@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308421 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Philip Kaludercic writes: > Thierry Volpiatto writes: > >> I see that Helm installation from nongnu elpa doesn't include >> emacs-helm.sh script, would it be possible to modify this? >> >> diff --git a/elpa-packages b/elpa-packages >> index 77d7a5409e..0923724b62 100644 >> --- a/elpa-packages >> +++ b/elpa-packages >> @@ -312,11 +312,11 @@ >> :ignored-files "COPYING") >>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >> (helm :url "https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm" >> - :ignored-files ("images" "Cask" "Makefile" "emacs-helm.sh" "h= elm-core.el" "helm.el" >> + :ignored-files ("images" "Makefile" "helm-core.el" "helm.el" >> "helm-lib.el" "helm-source.el" "helm-multi-match.el")) >>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >> (helm-core :url "https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm" >> - :ignored-files ("images" "Cask" "Makefile" "emacs-helm.sh" "h= elm-adaptive.el" >> + :ignored-files ("images" "Makefile" "emacs-helm.sh" "helm-ada= ptive.el" >> "helm-bookmark.el" "helm-buffers.el" "helm-color.el" "helm-= comint.el" >> "helm-command.el" "helm-config.el" "helm-dabbrev.el" "helm-= easymenu.el" >> "helm-elisp.el" "helm-elisp-package.el" "helm-epa.el" "helm= -eshell.el" > > There shouldn't be any issue in applying this patch, but could you > explain the propose of this script? It is used specially for reproducing bugs in a clean environment, see it as emacs -Q for Emacs when reporting bugs. This script starts Emacs -Q with only Helm loaded, this ensure the bug if one comes from Helm and not another package. This is important especially nowaday people are using "Emacs distribution" with the world list of packages installed. Apart that the script is useful to quickly launch Emacs with helm, one can use it from the Helm directory or symlinked to e.g. ~/bin.=20 > I see something involving straight.el, which is a > package.el-incompatible package manager, at which point I am confused > why this should be distributed along with a "package.el"-package. The script doesn't need straight, but it ensures the script is usable for somebody using straight (to find package directory etc...). >> Also I asked here about a new dependency for Helm called wfnames and had >> no answer (2 times),=20 > > Sorry about that, you can always feel free to CC me if you have specific > questions that might get lost on the mailing list. I suppose Stefan > Monnier wouldn't object to be mentioned either. Ok thanks, I will next time now I know you and Stefan are in charge of this. >> so I ask again differently now: >> >> When a package is available in Melpa do we have to add it in nongnu as >> well to satisfy dependencies for a package already in nongnu? > > Yes, if the dependency is missing someone only using GNU ELPA and NonGNU > ELPA wouldn't be able to install the package due to a missing dependency > and that is obviously not intended. Ok, it's what I thought, so yes it would be nice to install wfnames package in Nongnu. Here is the link: https://github.com/thierryvolpiatto/wfnames Thanks. =2D-=20 Thierry --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQHHBAEBCgAxFiEEI9twfRN7r3nig/xwDsVtFB0W75MFAmTROSQTHHRoaWV2b2xA cG9zdGVvLm5ldAAKCRAOxW0UHRbvk7x+DACrsERauQLhmK6GlkLr9I3tKpd02ElL 7fiPUHOOvuSBw+DBj/XG6D6C0P9bOO9B7SNPs6ZTqAEyv6UnWC7CLAevnBkiH8NI WnCOJkSRzhjI9Xa5dg3rqm0oLqB/3k/VueCrUdSvxgR5MrdebuOitPDdJFKY1zHz uTrHtt2kfZucCGICNIMYO7aGXTPqa3VwstvUeYp9ak8eLkqVHZAu9xYrcakLLWn/ oRBbuZJdTzAeKnw0ZFj5fjKuetKHRZqAIRRI+wj0V9qxHpqY9v6eRL2r9zuim3rm k7gG/+Qtb0Xv2Im2PEmkTI+6nnM3eQE2w4ItVis5QyyF6/LjNPa1dAzuvtHdsUZm wHEbpYp4H/hTy0fZg141pl5rauTrDjQijseC8v1hWTmKFHrnivbfucujD1UazgrF WPZJu/JNcQyzhn9yUhBqFDFisECWmsYXyw7lkgIhsTG+tfSHWYl5LYL5It9F96hA 80tPD0bjbHgbeH5w9rr+4X54Uf3Lv3UTpvw= =NJ4P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--