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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310476 Archived-At: Eshel Yaron writes: > Yes, it's probably used less often than those other atoms, but it's > definitely in use: there are quite some uses of the atom nil in the core > Erlang/OTP distribution, as well as in the main Elixir repo, for example. (Many uses in OTP are for using an atom to indicate [], or will not otherwise be returned from RPC calls in normal usage. But it is a poor excuse for not fixing the caveat.) > The problem is that any code that uses the atom nil, whether knowingly > or unknowingly, would potentially run into some tricky issues if it were > to communicate with Emacs via this library. I think that it's also a > bit hard to fix in a backwards-compatible manner, so I wonder if you > have anything in particular in mind for that eventual fix. If it's > fixed but it's not backwards-compatible, then any Elisp code that would > rely on this library to communicate with Erlang might have to be > adjusted, for instance because the representation of atoms/symbols would > have to change. I pushed the fix I had in mind in commit df6d8a7 [1]. It would also be neat to make the representation configurable, similar to what most JSON libraries in dynamically-typed languages do, but that is very low on my list of priorities. 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