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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317484 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 03 Apr 2024 14:03:51 +0200, Michael Albinus said: Michael> + Michael> +Emacs contains built-in packages with an own version number, = which Michael> +could be different from the natural version number of this pa= ckage Michael> +(for example, Tramp). Usually, they are adjusted by the resp= ective Michael> +maintainers prior an Emacs release. If a new Emacs version w= ill be Michael> +released without a pretest release, for example an emergency = release Michael> +due to security problems, inform the respective package maint= ainers in Michael> +advance by email, and give them a short period (one day) to a= djust the Michael> +package version number. It=CA=BCs not just the version number, it=CA=BCs also the fact that (some o= f) the development of built-in packages happens outside the emacs repository and is then synced (eg org-mode). It=CA=BCs that syncing we need to ensure is in a sane state, as well as the updating of the version number (although I realize in practise this is probably a weak argument: both the tramp and org-mode maintainers are pretty conscientious about ensuring the code in the emacs tree is healthy). Robert --=20