From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: pkg-autoloads.el vs. pkg-loaddefs.el Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 16:00:02 +0000 Message-ID: <871q4us0l9.fsf@localhost> References: <87y1adrria.fsf@localhost> <87o77zbs4j.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3903"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 18 17:59:26 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sJbF0-0000mT-8y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:59:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sJbE9-0000xQ-KU; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 11:58:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sJbE0-0000vz-CN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 11:58:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sJbDy-0006Aj-1G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 11:58:24 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A51A8240105 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:58:18 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1718726298; bh=vPvSIJRmhl7SiXq0ST7ziORfZxkSrEb6CePGQHnl6Kc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=UsJcr+PaA3OgXXmf/zqnbYHPcqt5UXjiri+ocTW6qOtEt2jeswJ5SUVfXqLG7GFzS mcKNwYh0c9VsyWYkzt4YkF8ISxW/QwT/aDnR8P4dM5T/axcU1pyK77brj2VdG/tLnd 7LxGVOAi4xFTN8m0bZCqphgroKQoCf4j0iowKJG9nh33LI6EcfoE7cnB8alZnTexd4 uqnqx5a6q4NEriG7dofjSOl0bn1k43v6sxy4zIDAFd5Wseegi68tI3jiefEsWY3KVS DcKR5pWoSf0bRIPJlA4waCAN9X4auLIver6XVf/JUtHFB9QJ3ARVtGLS4FZePKNER6 gV2LwyEYOyoXA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4W3Wcn4gNMz9rxD; Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:58:17 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320243 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> It means that built-in org-loaddefs.el version pre-loaded with Emacs >> remains active and any changes in org-loaddefs.el in ELPA Org mode >> vs. built-in Org mode are not updated. > > `org-loaddefs.el` shouldn't be any different from any other `org*.el` > file, in this respect: if it's been loaded before the package is > activated, then (hopefully) `package--reload-previously-loaded` should > reload the newer file. > > [ I've heard various reports over the years that indicate that > `package--reload-previously-loaded` doesn't always do that, but > I don't know if it's because it's not called at all, or because it's > called but makes wrong decisions. > Also of course, there can be lots of cases where reloading a file isn't > sufficient. ] But isn't it called only when `package-activate-1' is called with RELOAD argument? AFAIU, `package-activate' (and thus `package-activate-all') calls (package-activate-1 pkg-desc nil 'deps). -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at