From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 00:55:48 +0200 Message-ID: <871q33rj7v.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87sevj9b50.fsf@jeremybryant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16356"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZkdoVUw1mHdBRDvPalg4XKvRB1g= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 05 04:23:14 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sanNR-00044X-8p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 04:23:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sanMj-00076M-IJ; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 22:22:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sak93-00075r-V3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 18:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sak91-0000iX-1D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2024 18:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sak8x-0008gH-N6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 00:56:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 22:22:27 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322346 Archived-At: Jeremy Bryant wrote: > Lisp is the most powerful and elegant of programming > languages. If you want to see how powerful and elegant > a programming language can be, you need to learn Lisp. > It will give you standard for measuring other languages. Ah, I don't know, that kind of boasting. Powerful and elegant are both immeasurable things, well, maybe in electrical engineering one can measure it. > Calling Emacs Lisp "python-like" is derogatory to Emacs > Lisp. Python has some of the characteristics that make Lisp > superior, but not all of them. Okay, then everyone should know this is a controversial thing to say. No one, or very few, would recommend Emacs Lisp as an alternative to Python 2024. It will sounds like we are a bunch of fanatics boasting from our own echo chamber were, inside it, we all are fantastic and high on Lisp. Lisp's superiority is a myth. To me it is more like a drug :) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal