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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323897 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: suhailsingh247@gmail.com, meedstrom@runbox.eu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> tonyzorman@mailbox.org >> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 14:31:21 +0000 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> >> Cc: suhailsingh247@gmail.com, meedstrom@runbox.eu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> >> tonyzorman@mailbox.org >> >> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 20:43:27 +0000 >> >> >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> >> >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> >> >> Cc: suhailsingh247@gmail.com, meedstrom@runbox.eu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> >> >> tonyzorman@mailbox.org >> >> >> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:14:26 +0000 >> >> >> >> >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is the fix: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Can you explain in plain English what this does? >> >> >> >> >> >> Sure, each package has a description object (search for "(cl-defstruct >> >> >> (package-desc" in package.el), with some fixed attributes like name, >> >> >> version, dependencies and others that are stored in an alist. The >> >> >> commit used to create a package is one such attribute stored in the >> >> >> "extras" slot of a package-desc. My chance modifies the package >> >> >> description given by the ELPA server and updates the :commit field to >> >> >> store the commit that was checked out when the package was built >> >> >> locally. I hope that is clear enough? >> >> > >> >> > Yes, thanks. What was the :commit field storing before the change? >> >> >> >> The commit the ELPA build server used to release a new version of the >> >> package. >> > >> > That is not right, I agree. >> > >> >> M-x list-packages lists the commit of the local checkout for >> >> VC packages, btw. >> > >> > What is "the local checkout" in this context? >> >> The checkout of the VC package that the *Help* buffer is describing. >> >> >> I could have sworn that M-x describe-package did the same. >> > >> > Shouldn't they all be consistent in what commit they show? >> >> Yes, that is my point. But since the commit in the package description >> is not updated when the package is installed, there is a discrepancy. > > So your change should make all of them agree? In that case, please > install, and thanks. Right, will do. -- Philip Kaludercic on siskin