From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>,
Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 02:18:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86zjazyoxb.fsf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4mt7ox88.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 07 Dec 2014 18:31:01 -0500")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Common Lisp solved this problem 20 years ago with namespaces. We should
>> just implement CL namespaces instead of trying to shoehorn Smalltalk
>> into the language. Would you accept a CL packages implementation?
>
> Last time this was discussed (a year ago, maybe?), we neded turning it
> down, mostly because `M-x grep RET' can't be used for find-definition
> and find-uses.
Could we revisit this discussion, maybe? Having a Lisp VM at the core of
Emacs means we don't need to use grep for find-definition.
And find-uses can be implemented in a lisp-only namespace-aware
searching function.
Clojure (a rather popular Lisp) uses what sounds to be a similar
packages system, and the popular editing environments implement both
above operations without considerable problems.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-08 0:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-04 23:43 Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 1:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 2:42 ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05 3:23 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 3:32 ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05 4:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 8:52 ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05 14:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 14:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 15:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 18:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06 9:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-05 22:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 9:54 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-05 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:12 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 19:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06 3:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 18:01 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:54 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 5:47 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-12-05 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 19:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:26 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06 0:13 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06 0:22 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06 4:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-06 9:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 3:10 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07 6:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 7:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07 16:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-07 17:40 ` Namespace macros (was: Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs) Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 0:11 ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 7:55 ` Namespace macros Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 8:36 ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 9:17 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 11:02 ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 11:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 11:42 ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 11:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 12:52 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 20:59 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 23:37 ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-09 0:25 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-07 18:30 ` Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Drew Adams
2014-12-08 0:25 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 1:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08 5:34 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-08 20:59 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 21:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-09 19:35 ` namespaces Ivan Shmakov
2014-12-08 20:59 ` Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1Xxm91-0000jQ-Mr@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<5484FD09.60603@dancol.org>
[not found] ` <<9ae6762d-a52a-4a06-b2e9-dab893a22d38@default>
[not found] ` <<E1Xy5Os-0004cU-HF@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-12-08 21:17 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 16:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 17:29 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-07 21:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 21:26 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-07 21:32 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07 21:43 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 23:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 23:39 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08 2:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 2:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08 3:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 10:01 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-08 20:35 ` David Engster
2014-12-08 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 0:18 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2014-12-08 2:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 2:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-07 8:54 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-07 9:25 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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