From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com,
spd@toadstyle.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: igc, macOS avoiding signals
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 21:55:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86zfk7fz9a.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pll3ivzs.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Helmut Eller on Fri, 03 Jan 2025 19:37:59 +0100)
> From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
> Cc: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com,
> spd@toadstyle.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 19:37:59 +0100
>
> On Tue, Dec 31 2024, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > We'd need to add a new function to process_pending_signals, which
> > would process SIGPROF and maybe also SIGALRM. The signal handlers for
> > those would then only set a flag (not pending_signals, some other
> > flag).
>
> I implemented this with the two attached patches. The trouble is that,
> the recorded backtraces are not same. This can be seen by looking at
> the call tree produced by profiler.el and the attached profiler-test.el.
> When add_sample is called in the signal handler, then the call tree for
> the foo example looks so:
>
> ...
> 1986 100% main
> 1986 100% record-samples
> 1986 100% foo
> 1074 54% float-time
> 0 0% ...
>
> When add_sample is called from process_pending_signals, it looks like
> this:
>
> ...
> 1986 100% main
> 1986 100% record-samples
> 1986 100% foo
> 0 0% ...
>
> Not the absence of float-time. The reason for this is, that in
> bytecode.c, maybe_quit is called before the function is pushed to the
> backtrace with record_in_backtrace. In the second patch, I moved this
> call forward to before the function is popped with lisp_eval_depth--.
> With this patch, the call tree includes float-time again:
>
> ...
> 1989 100% main
> 1989 100% record-samples
> 1989 100% foo
> 1981 99% float-time
> 0 0% ...
>
> However, float-time has now 99% as opposed to 54% in the first call
> tree.
>
> A more complex pair of call trees is attached in the files
> bar-0.report and bar-2.report. A significant difference there is
> in this section:
>
> ...
> 781 73% animate-place-char
> 19 1% delete-char
> 16 1% floor
> 4 0% undo-auto--undoable-change
> 4 0% undo-auto--boundary-ensure-timer
> 96 9% insert-char
> 14 1% undo-auto--undoable-change
> 6 0% undo-auto--boundary-ensure-timer
> 5 0% beginning-of-line
> 232 21% move-to-column
> ...
>
> compared to the version with both patches applied:
>
> ...
> 693 72% animate-place-char
> 32 3% delete-char
> 29 3% window-start
> 43 4% insert-char
> 309 32% move-to-column
> 222 23% beginning-of-line
> 8 0% undo-auto--undoable-change
> 8 0% undo-auto--boundary-ensure-timer
> 8 0% run-at-time
> 8 0% timer-set-function
> 8 0% timerp
> 8 0% vectorp
> ...
>
> E.g. the percentage attributed to beginning-of-line is quite different
> in those two versions (23% and 0%).
>
> I'm not sure if those differences are acceptable. I also have no good
> idea how to reduce it, except inserting more calls to maybe_quit.
Thanks.
I guess this means we don't call maybe_quit frequently enough to
produce accurate profiles using this method.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-03 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-28 13:24 igc, macOS avoiding signals Sean Devlin
2024-12-28 13:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-28 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 14:45 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 7:13 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 7:23 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 7:39 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 7:51 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 8:02 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 8:47 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 9:29 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 9:47 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:54 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 10:27 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 11:53 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 15:05 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:32 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 14:59 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:24 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 15:25 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:34 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:02 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 20:03 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:30 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 16:57 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:41 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 17:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 18:33 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-30 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:37 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 19:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 7:34 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 9:19 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 9:51 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 10:00 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:49 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 9:51 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 14:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:20 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:12 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:31 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:37 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 10:09 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:29 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-03 18:37 ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-03 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2025-01-03 20:28 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2025-01-04 7:01 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04 8:02 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04 8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 9:02 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 10:22 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04 13:59 ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-04 14:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-04 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 14:55 ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-04 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-04 16:02 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2025-01-04 17:13 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 15:07 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:19 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:40 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-31 14:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 15:13 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-31 15:16 ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-02 8:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 9:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:00 ` Helmut Eller
2025-01-02 12:34 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2025-01-02 13:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:56 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 12:42 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 13:40 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 13:53 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:02 ` Gerd Möllmann
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2024-12-29 2:21 ` Sean Devlin
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2024-12-30 13:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-30 5:24 ` Sean Devlin
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