From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Binding F11 and F12 to buffer-switching and file-saving by default Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:47:52 +0100 Message-ID: <86y7nj1vtj.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <87veio3npx.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <8764ao3hxn.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <45C04ACB.9030707@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1170229713 25290 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2007 07:48:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:48:33 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 31 08:48:17 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HCACW-0002m5-Mx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:48:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HCACW-0006Pt-7i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:48:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HCACL-0006O5-Mn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:48:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HCACK-0006Lv-3s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:48:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HCACK-0006Lo-19 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:48:04 -0500 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HCACJ-0006Ts-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (pd95b0fdb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.91.15.219]) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16600 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:47:56 +0100 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 17109 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2007 07:48:01 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 Jan 2007 07:48:01 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4B22823834; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:47:52 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:65686 Archived-At: Andreas Roehler writes: >>> Could we at least bind compile/recompile to some key combo, even if >>> not to F12? >> >> I have no opinion on that. >> > > Enhancing Emacs' usability is a good idea. Respecting > better the needs of none-programmers could gain support > from a growing community. Function key bindings are contentious enough that I don't think we should press a particular set. I think that once customization themes work reasonably well (possibly even having the possibility to have them mode-dependent?) and we have found a way to cover keybindings as well, having themes mimicking various IDEs as well as possibly designing our own native set would be somewhat natural. But at the current point of time, I don't think that there is one binding worth pressing on everyone. -- David Kastrup