From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general Subject: Re: Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:55:58 -0700 Organization: Stonehenge Consulting Services; Portland, Oregon, USA Message-ID: <86y781wpdt.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <200803290100.m2T10Mgm007655@localhost.localdomain> <85iqz5rgvw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206802596 24645 80.91.229.12 (29 Mar 2008 14:56:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bazaar@lists.canonical.com To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 29 15:57:07 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JfcUR-00081o-AM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:57:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JfcTp-0004EX-QX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:56:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JfcTl-0004EH-8C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:56:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JfcTi-0004DB-HP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:56:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JfcTi-0004D6-80 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:56:18 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JfcTh-0001vB-KZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:56:18 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JfcTa-0005AH-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:56:10 +0000 Original-Received: from blue.stonehenge.com ([209.223.236.162]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:56:10 +0000 Original-Received: from merlyn by blue.stonehenge.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:56:10 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: blue.stonehenge.com x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.15.3.12; tzolkin = 5 Eb; haab = 0 Uayeb User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NdiuubPsMeVphlTXG8l/Pp28AiQ= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93800 gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general:39516 Archived-At: >>>>> "David" == David Kastrup writes: David> Uh, an arbitrary political decision wiping away all technical arguments David> is what started free software in the first place. Only for the revisionists. Free software existed long before the GNU Project. The GNU Project's contribution was a legally enforcable license to ensure share-and-share-alike for authors who chose to use the legal system to enforce their politics. This was definitely an important contribution at the time, but it wasn't the thing that "started free software". Those of us who have been around from the beginning must tell the story *as* it happened, not replay the revisionist's story. In other words, if you don't lie, I won't have to respond. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!