From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Merging MPS a.k.a. scratch/igc, yet again Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 14:41:17 +0200 Message-ID: <86y10nbthu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878qwuitbu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87jzcajrnz.fsf@protonmail.com> <86o71mfhox.fsf@gnu.org> <87frmyjn9j.fsf@protonmail.com> <86ldwqfcqv.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5d6jgim.fsf@protonmail.com> <86a5d6f7bn.fsf@gnu.org> <871pyijctd.fsf@protonmail.com> <8634iyf257.fsf@gnu.org> <8634iwex8q.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9777"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, luangruo@yahoo.com, ali_gnu2@emvision.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 10 13:42:18 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tKzZC-0002KE-Or for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 13:42:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKzYL-0002Ab-V1; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 07:41:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKzYK-0002AT-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 07:41:24 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKzYI-0004WR-8R; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 07:41:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=GAja9gUDrqvAwUQjpFHf6aiJR4hNxFpHo8nID2Ttfcg=; b=ViGigNlIY1V15Dounqb1 MgwM1UB9ZNF1rKuiunfpEeEdEQ8wGng0hU9fGmvvINVOcSpZrR8NsL9A07xTe1FswZxxbvL2646Tu 5gC2rKnBnRcEdIB963+JlD4dHWnz9lNrJLK5wPQNQpCJ3PqIo3g5LGo38+cVU80znH2BVQt85158Q GCIu1Q0xppQegysDLonaqIMmP6zU2ABMj8qXujM8weYKGCAabm+ilxf7E57bcq1Ri105XfaTUWDbe 4TmfVKCZZPD26scMZZTqJRAWCUST+TZweHa6XnmCPxIz21QsB8scGlV5D29Z/bEs11Ewg9xjwxzU8 VpYz8K3Nia9zZA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 9 Dec 2024 13:06:18 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326281 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 13:06:18 -0800 > Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, luangruo@yahoo.com, ali_gnu2@emvision.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, Gerd Möllmann , > Stefan Monnier > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > From where I stand, what's left to do on the branch is stability: > > using the branch, reporting bugs, and fixing them, especially on some > > rarer platforms (*BSD, for example). Plus some decisions: do we fork > > MPS or not, for example. So it isn't such a distant future. > > In that case, I'd suggest that we start working on getting README-IGC > into an excellent state. In August, when I last tried building the > branch, getting it to build was non-trivial, but I didn't try with the > latest instructions. Sure, if the instructions could be improved, this would be good regardless. > Once we feel happy that it's reasonably straightforward to follow the > instructions, I'd suggest that Someone (TM) makes a post to emacs-devel, > asking people to start seriously testing the branch. Such a post should > normally get picked up by Emacs News, Reddit, etc. and hopefully the > branch will then start seeing wider use. (Remember to Cc Sacha Chua to > get it on Emacs News.) This was already done: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2024-09/msg00257.html and some people already provide such feedback. But, of course, repeating the request for testing and feedback can never do any harm, and can be posted right now. > I'm sure that users will be excited to help test igc once they > understand that we're working seriously on stabilizing it in preparation > of getting it merged. Let's hope you are right.