From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 5a125fb5a97 1/2: Update to Org 9.7.3 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 19:50:22 +0300 Message-ID: <86wmmuyuk1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <171796793548.23337.12512115872160390161@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20240609211858.A2C31C1F9FB@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87ed927ris.fsf@kyleam.com> <86frti1r1w.fsf@gnu.org> <87tthy71xw.fsf@localhost> <864j9y1fge.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14868"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, kyle@kyleam.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 12 18:50:56 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sHRBY-0003cG-O6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:50:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sHRB7-0001L4-1j; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:50:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sHRB5-0001Kq-O8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:50:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sHRB4-0002uu-GH; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:50:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=rIb0hBp/XsEQcw+Zj7mkLyuuUse8Wj50tpQeMDDdtzk=; b=o2ysf92yLu87 0ltoRjEbCu2++y0EX0qjmB++TsndjvMswoWZdO2XLe93AbBqfycgo9iQCQcEQjzC3J6Gn+NTfhxQX x8krh76A+5sghxXUF+UzUnTv/1N0tlcr1OWeLUWKNo5GoSLvkPRU3S2qfGSf4T3p7wdtOCa1SS+Tz j07p6mNaCbOMT3Au/xPF9loHwP8byPInSCLXQBQnJmEzqHqiLfHsgqyz+Z32BhkcZcJxt+devzBwZ xFCQjew0EZmLwWlvjrSHgfL6HWT0AmVQUN5m2Rkaq3Bo86MAlAFLTNZ4LrEuXi+OdiLY+ZRJ2BnBg KKpwu2G6AQr/14hjBE9Ibg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 12 Jun 2024 10:46:07 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320005 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Ihor Radchenko , kyle@kyleam.com, > stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 10:46:07 -0400 > > >> The existence of such script implies that .texi files generated by Org > >> are not well-formatted. May you please explain why org.org file needs to > >> be parsed and why parsing org.texi is not sufficient? > > I don't think it has anything to do with formatting of org.texi. The > > issue here is that info/DIR file might be generated when org.texi is > > not yet available or not yet up-to-date, such as during bootstrap or > > after some change in org.org. IOW, the reason for this behavior is > > that we want to produce info/DIR from the source files, not from the > > generated files. > > I don't think this argument is very convincing: getting the info "from > org.org via an awk script" is not that different from getting it "from > org.org via org-export plus install-info". If we could use install-info, we didn't need that script at all. The comments in the top-level Makefile explain why we don't use install-info for generating DIR in the build tree.