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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252956 Archived-At: Hi. Jeff. >>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Norden writes: [...] Jeff> If I'm using a "vanilla" emacs, I usually change scroll-step Jeff> (or -conservatively), but this just takes a moment. And, if I can't recall the variable Jeff> name, I just do M-x set-variable scroll- [TAB], and there they are. I tend to use vanilla emacs once per month (not regularly). One of the things I would change would be: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (defalias 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The idea, is not changing it. For me It is just mentioning some things ouf of our experience as emacs users who from time to time experience|use vanilla-emacs. Perhaps another person who use vanilla-emacs would say '+1' to one of our suggestions (who knows). Best Regards