From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: :file keyword for Customize Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:34:49 +0200 Message-ID: <86tzh7k0l2.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <004101c8b129$788cd490$0ab32382@us.oracle.com> <85zlr0msi8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <86iqxnpnxo.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210343718 17593 80.91.229.12 (9 May 2008 14:35:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 09 16:35:54 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JuThJ-0000Nj-Hh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 16:35:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44535 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JuTgb-0003bY-3l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 10:35:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JuTgW-0003YL-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 10:34:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JuTgR-0003X8-Ld for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 10:34:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47677 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JuTgR-0003X5-H7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 10:34:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.quinscape.de ([212.29.44.217]:51047) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JuTgR-00038r-0J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 10:34:51 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail-ldap/ctrl 21852 invoked from network); 9 May 2008 14:34:48 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by quinx.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 May 2008 14:34:47 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 330E38EEBA; Fri, 9 May 2008 16:34:49 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <86iqxnpnxo.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 09 May 2008 09:11:31 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.3-2; AVE: 7.8.0.17; VDF: 7.0.4.22; host: quinx) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96889 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Thu, 08 May 2008 22:48:47 +0200 David Kastrup wrote: > > DK> So what? [the user's custom file] is a "monolithic blob" not > DK> intended for human consumption, and one can't really delay loading > DK> it, anyway. So all this buys us is added complication and longer > DK> load times. > > I think monolithic blobs have historically been proven unsuitable for > human consumption. What about "not intended for human consumption" did you not understand? > In the same way a user's customizations for authentication are more > sensitive than the default customizations, and should probably be > stored in a separate file that's encrypted with some mechanism. Put them into ~/.netrc > The default customizations are then available to fellow users without > danger of compromising security. There is nothing worse than people indiscriminately copying .emacs files, anyway. -- David Kastrup