From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Debugging Emacs Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:18:43 -0600 Message-ID: <86twnuf7gc.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <87r3jbicg0.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83wpt3qq7b.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh9jp073.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h9k6r1z8.fsf@gnu.org> <878u5hlxqd.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8337vpq2po.fsf@gnu.org> <87zixxkdth.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87si3na9yr.fsf@ulb.ac.be> <83h9jxf9l2.fsf@gnu.org> <87oae27fix.fsf@russet.org.uk> <837fkqdxq7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449512370 25871 80.91.229.3 (7 Dec 2015 18:19:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 18:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, nrichard@ulb.ac.be, Phillip Lord To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 07 19:19:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a60Nc-0005fA-Fm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:19:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55920 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a60Nb-0005Qv-Pr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:19:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a60NN-0005Pj-PK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:19:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a60NK-0002gt-Rq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:19:05 -0500 Original-Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([67.222.33.93]:59077) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a60NK-0002gX-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:19:02 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 10248 invoked by uid 0); 7 Dec 2015 18:18:56 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2015 18:18:56 -0000 Original-Received: from host114.hostmonster.com ([74.220.207.114]) by cmgw2 with id qiJm1r00k2UdiVW01iJpXV; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:18:54 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=dqRIVTQ4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:117 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:17 a=DsvgjBjRAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=hEr_IkYJT6EA:10 a=x_XPkuGwIRMA:10 a=wUQvQvOEmiQA:10 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=EVGd2Rn3DWVUXRGXFooA:9 Original-Received: from [76.218.37.33] (port=55587 helo=TAKVER2) by host114.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a60N6-0004oN-CT; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:18:48 -0700 In-Reply-To: <837fkqdxq7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:34:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (windows-nt) X-Identified-User: {2442:host114.hostmonster.com:stephele:stephe-leake.org} {sentby:smtp auth 76.218.37.33 authed with stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 67.222.33.93 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195958 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Probably, etc/DEBUG needs to be replaced with a section in the elisp >> manual. > > Somebody already mentioned that. I don't think I agree: when you > debug, you need the instructions be available on the simplest medium > possible, so a plain text file is better than Info. What's more > important, a single file with a distinct name is easier found than a > section in a large manual. It would be very rare to have no working Emacs available to read an info manual. Perhaps a short summary in etc/DEBUG, with more complete description in the manual? -- -- Stephe