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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, acorallo@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: Re: master 8c81818673a 6/7: Tune volatile in read_char
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 22:27:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ttfgwbxi.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71607435-31fd-4a6c-8392-ad5725c8f3b3@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Mon, 19 Aug 2024 11:59:28 -0700)

> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 11:59:28 -0700
> Cc: acorallo@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> 
> On 2024-08-19 09:15, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Why not simply undo that single patch, and be done?
> 
> Let's not. The issue has long been present and is not limited to 
> read_char; see, for example, the variable "this_op" in exec_byte_code, 
> which is merely a volatile copy of "op". The method Emacs uses to 
> address this issue works and there's no reason to use a different method 
> in read_char than everywhere else.

I'm talking only about that particular change, whose motivation is
described as "Optimize access to a local volatile."  If this is just
an optimization, and its effect on performance is as you describe it,
but it has a downside of making the code harder to read and maintain,
why not pay that small penalty in performance?

> A better way to deal with 'volatile' is to not use it, the way Stefan 
> did in 2013; see commit adf2aa61404305e58e71cde0193bb650aff2c4b3.

I have nothing against 'volatile' in general.  Once again, this is
only about the "optimization" part of your changes.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-19 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20240817041648.A6687C2BC66@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2024-08-17 15:04   ` master 8c81818673a 6/7: Tune volatile in read_char Andrea Corallo
2024-08-17 17:03     ` Pip Cet
2024-08-17 18:16       ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-17 18:17     ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-18  7:39       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-08-18 21:39         ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-18 21:57           ` Sam James
2024-08-18 22:03             ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-19 14:43           ` Andrea Corallo
2024-08-19 15:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 15:32               ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 15:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 16:01                   ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 16:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 18:59                       ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-19 19:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-08-19 19:05                       ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 19:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 19:43                           ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-19 20:08                             ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 22:20                               ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-19 23:40                                 ` Pip Cet

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