From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dired enhancements for possible inclusion Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:23:49 +0200 Message-ID: <86sl82j8qi.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183706641 31268 80.91.229.12 (6 Jul 2007 07:24:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 06 09:23:59 2007 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I6iAY-00087v-OO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:23:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6iAX-0006Xf-Un for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:23:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I6iAT-0006SW-NT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:23:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I6iAR-0006PP-IS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:23:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6iAR-0006PH-GI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:23:51 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I6iAQ-0007J0-Rx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:23:51 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (dslnet.212-29-44.ip210.dokom.de [212.29.44.210] (may be forged)) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11797 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:23:49 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 30717 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2007 07:23:49 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Jul 2007 07:23:49 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D1F1F8F9F8; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:23:49 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu\, 5 Jul 2007 22\:37\:28 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74382 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> * The entire line is highlighted on mouse-over, regardless >> of where on the line the mouse is. Click `mouse-2' >> anywhere on the line to open its file or directory. >> >> I don't understand that one. > > Screenshot attached. > > I've mentioned this before, in the context also of grep (where I do the same > thing). The idea is to apply the `mouse-face' highlight to the entire line, > not just to the file name. > > I prefer this because: > > * You can scan lines by moving the mouse up and down, without needing to > hold it in a narrow vertical band at the right. Think of this as the effect > of holding a ruler horizontally when trying to scan a tabular list. It helps > you visually align everything in the same row - there's no risk of reading > the wrong file permissions for a given file, for instance. Similarly, > there's no risk of clicking mouse-2 on the left somewhere and opening the > wrong file. > > * Without this, you can of course still click mouse-2 anywhere on the line > to open a file, but the visual feedback doesn't tell you that that is the > case - nothing indicates that the entire line is a hot zone (link) for > mouse-2. > > IIRC, some others didn't like the idea when I described it previously > (perhaps in the context of grep; I don't remember). The main disadvantage I see that it is completely impossible to avoid the fireworks and distraction of a highlighted line as long as the mouse cursor is anywhere within the window. -- David Kastrup