From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [SPAM UNSURE] Re: policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:38:20 -0800 Message-ID: <86sg6o6c43.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <86eeifawx8.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87czxygdl9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86tur88izp.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <831rec5apu.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1magg4x.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23950"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (windows-nt) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 25 20:39:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l47iK-00068F-LU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:39:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33438 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l47iJ-0005Gd-MT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:39:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46482) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l47gx-0004Ul-Su for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:38:28 -0500 Original-Received: from gateway30.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.194.16]:26730) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l47gw-0003u6-6N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:38:27 -0500 Original-Received: from cm10.websitewelcome.com (cm10.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.4]) by gateway30.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D502EEF2 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 13:38:25 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from host2007.hostmonster.com ([67.20.76.71]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 47gulzMiVuDoA47gvl7l62; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 13:38:25 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stephe-leake.org; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=3FTMlP9Qul3J2e/Jy4G5HeAmkN6t1y+hbIRyTkNTVLA=; b=B2QscG9rKLnWfs+V9Ky3nHVfZ VN3tU1DXeDbD/FfjGhIllEGMcflf+h/dj9oD7gN56poYWvJp1bcidk7Pv4dPMVNbT7AZl8e1tZzNh tVQ9v2zPVO9i4DhBo8b2A5MLxBuXL9Qp8RTZakArU+/iLcMVEztTGSiyzxXDMBBMvb2xNRQ7vlecr L7bh3R8szrJJRvQw2prGGq58csK4HEGtaTMLfMVKwCKso5a968fH4OGoHKXq15Vd+ABNJv+o/offg zteezCjP2xnBl7iVVOzcWv05xza8tpxhs0VnylgH2mDqEmlYraGTJwW9ohuawGp5qrcvlnWTaQSvG 2uAHo9PlA==; Original-Received: from [76.77.182.20] (port=55059 helo=Takver4) by host2007.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1l47gu-003frZ-Ib; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:38:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87r1magg4x.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:49:02 +0000") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2007.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stephe-leake.org X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 76.77.182.20 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1l47gu-003frZ-Ib X-Source-Sender: (Takver4) [76.77.182.20]:55059 X-Source-Auth: stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org X-Email-Count: 8 X-Source-Cap: c3RlcGhlbGU7c3RlcGhlbGU7aG9zdDIwMDcuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes Received-SPF: neutral client-ip=192.185.194.16; envelope-from=stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org; helo=gateway30.websitewelcome.com X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263411 Archived-At: Phillip Lord writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> If the submodules cannot be worktrees, then I think we have to >>> abandon this approach. >> >> I'm not sure. There are alternatives to using worktrees, so the fact >> that some of us use worktrees in some workflows should not necessarily >> veto the submodule solution to integrating ELPA into Emacs, because >> this integration is more important than personal workflows. >> >> But maybe I misunderstand what you mean by "submodule cannot be >> worktrees", because AFAIU Phillip raised an issue that is a different >> one: whether submodules live well with different branches being >> checked out in different worktrees -- there's nothing there to suggest >> that submodules themselves should be worktrees. > > Just so. > > The version of git (2.25.1) on my laptop reports worktree and submodules > as being broken. > > And the 2.30 also the same https://git-scm.com/docs/git-worktree Ah. I'm using 2.17 in mingw64, but I haven't updated in a long time. I'll update. In particular, my tests so far have been creating new submodules in worktrees. I have not committed a submodule (ie .gitmodules), then made a worktree from that. But we should not rely on something that the git maintainers say doesn't work. So we are back to using worktrees from a local elpa.git checkout. Sigh. -- -- Stephe