From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MPS: User GC customizations Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 22:12:56 +0300 Message-ID: <86sewp6kef.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87v81pbgzi.fsf@localhost> <87y16khvhy.fsf@localhost> <87frspqwhr.fsf@localhost> <87tth5pdqc.fsf@localhost> <86sewp8djd.fsf@gnu.org> <86frsp88fa.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk3d87od.fsf@gnu.org> <867ce18265.fsf@gnu.org> <86zfqx6ls0.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14501"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, yantar92@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com To: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 04 21:13:52 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sPRtw-0003ch-4v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 21:13:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPRtE-00075p-7J; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 15:13:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPRt7-00072a-EB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 15:13:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPRt6-0005Ed-VO; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 15:13:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=jTv77TbfYeYGfOIqwEBBHgINlyS15masAbGpmas2uCQ=; b=M1Qhv97G9zfTZlHj4+ex xZdX1ZF3tNC8Ikp96hf3rGvfbf5hOgnuwoaO/Y/g48TAp7H9+DhLH8O2qqh2xA+iXFODSElFFW9ly hYrCBh3kHWSDUVkfF8Brl46z4we53vF5KyJZ+oBdZ7CIJ0H1fg4Ua0H3JaE0EJmr/rlfsUZq8B6Su NCBjrwACMM+DuvT9bgRnCscnvglDt5QPmHMufcZLo4PjeXB5Zjdf6oCxiS4zxK+xMuL1cvi6Y5S2o KEyfrzt1R8B16IpP5m8iaV2w+uab2gq+HdJK1tsZ6VXuhyJ84CDtIRdbBgwy0+IiR4EePan/e1rfm UgCioLSoHpUgDw==; In-Reply-To: (message from Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= on Thu, 04 Jul 2024 21:09:23 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321358 Archived-At: > From: Gerd Möllmann > Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, yantar92@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > eller.helmut@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 21:09:23 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Gerd Möllmann > >> Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, yantar92@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > >> eller.helmut@gmail.com > >> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 20:28:23 +0200 > >> > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > >> > IOW, let me turn the table and ask what does "idleness" have to do > >> > with this variable? > >> > >> Simple. Because this person here, a long time ago, idly put > >> mps_arena_step where it is, when writing igc_on_idle, and made Emacs call > >> that when idle. > > > > Then it follows that "we" cause the to begin when Emacs is idle, and > > "we" tell MPS that it is kindly requested not to spend more than > > igc-step-interval seconds doing GC before it returns, when we trigger > > GC via mps_arena_step. Right? > > We give MPS the chance to to work it wants to, right. OK, in that case all the preceding discussion and confusion was due to misunderstanding, because that's what I meant from the beginning.