From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Physical keyboard events Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 08:41:25 +0200 Message-ID: <86ses3r1ey.fsf@gnu.org> References: <31bdc55d-8c13-4de0-9cef-bd6cc4fb033f@imayhem.com> <19ab52d0-88bd-4378-8fa8-8603e01233e3@imayhem.com> <871pzrl4sn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87o72vjk1f.fsf@yahoo.com> <86fro7uo6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87bjyvjdk2.fsf@yahoo.com> <867c9juetb.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmhiihzx.fsf@yahoo.com> <7c1b4258-447f-433c-939e-21df7f9eeec3@imayhem.com> <87ses6hx27.fsf@yahoo.com> <3cc3b427-0adf-49e7-8db7-506803c2b29b@imayhem.com> <87o72tj2hd.fsf@yahoo.com> <8545224f-07a8-435d-8be4-fac9a3b20409@imayhem.com> <86ed3osd3o.fsf@gnu.org> <87bjyrj3e6.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4309"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 07 07:42:39 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t8wE3-00013H-19 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 07:42:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t8wDC-0000SQ-P1; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 01:41:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t8wD1-0000Rx-AT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 01:41:35 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t8wD0-0002ee-EN; Thu, 07 Nov 2024 01:41:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=TxiRjWQR7oZToeT74nIFFoXSXTxlYquUO55XWYqGKwo=; b=KZJ0e/U7OW1m LV7JFiR6YoQSDGepb4cIFSmmidKgLLCRXEWMsdrf1FSEl/oM+y7BNfBXpYuBvD3N446apPaw2F1yo m/D7cqFfh39GiwAV5ClU3iuHOUHIL0FVsXAeV1GYxNwpemMS2TRYWCHxtsiEJMf8EX3swMaSyzMCL amz1h6Z1URT/jJ7Pt87GPbk3pqYJvbZF9/5SLFBAx+hZPrUUZFdOkA9PFYRhvXSWQbSHfHUibN7Uw 9Km/JM+3AXnKiEoLT0e2Uine6CMkGx+5aAmg1SeqX4TNT16G6lP/KiqlTS4Uf3WcXoLjlczTyp6GC aZD9uT+Cadfwkbs1fFb7qg==; In-Reply-To: <87bjyrj3e6.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Thu, 07 Nov 2024 08:25:53 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325204 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 08:25:53 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I already said that we could have both what you want and what Cecilio > > considers TRT. Why do you keep arguing for your concept as the only > > one? > > Because the former is fatally hamstrung for many users, from whom we > will undoubtedly receive a spate of issues reporting that their modifier > keys are not producing activation events. I understand what you are saying, but Cecilio and myself clearly disagree, so why not have both abilities in Emacs (assuming that it is possible and practical)?