From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Moreton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 03:34:02 +0000 Message-ID: <86r1m5loph.fsf@gmail.com> References: <86eeifawx8.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87czxygdl9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86tur88izp.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <86h7n880lo.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y2gk3rin.fsf@gnu.org> <86o8he6y4k.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <8335yq4350.fsf@gnu.org> <86k0s26qqt.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83sg6q2is5.fsf@gnu.org> <86wnw06cgo.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y2gg23qb.fsf@gnu.org> <867dny5u4u.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32220"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (windows-nt) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:2YQLyFzN0se7N00Lc/K9btlXQ6Y= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 28 04:34:54 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4y58-0008Hy-GJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 04:34:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50600 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4y57-0007m2-Hu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:34:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4y4S-0007F8-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:34:12 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:37720) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4y4R-0000c8-H6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:34:12 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4y4O-0007Me-9z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 04:34:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263529 Archived-At: On Wed 27 Jan 2021, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> So one way to eliminate the ballast is to split Gnu ELPA into one >> repository per package; then git submodule will only download the >> repository for that package. > > There's a strong technical reason why `elpa.git` and `nongnu.git` are > single repositories: Savannah does not let us create new repositories > nor change their default branch, nor setup/change the commit-diffs for > them. Every time such a thing needs to happen, we have to ask > a sysadmin to do it for us. Using technical means to work around a social/political problem usually results in later difficulties. AndyM