From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "simplifications"
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:19:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86pry6xnyp.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv63zyz37s.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon\, 19 Nov 2007 10\:11\:41 -0500")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> is not my idea of fun, or legible, or maintainable, or... you pick the
>> word. Not that c??r is much of an improvement; we should be able to
>> define accesor functions in the package
>
>> (defsubst ring--vec (ring)
>> (cdr (cdr ring)))
>
>> and have the byte-compiler optimize them away.
>
> 1 - if you use defsubst* the byte-code will look good.
> 2 - you can use defstruct to get all that and more.
> 3 - I don't think it's worth the trouble to make the byte-optimizer more
> complex for such little benefit. If you want to improve it, use the
> lexbind branch: it's a much saner starting point.
>
>
> Stefan "whose local Emacs hacks include some byte-optimizer
> improvement which does manage to optimize `cadr' but it's too
> much work works with too many limitations and on top of
> that, it's not even clear that the optimization is
> always correct: it doesn't account for the case where
> you do
> (defsubst cadr (debug-on-error) (car (cdr debug-on-error)))
> in which case the optimization is not semantics preserving"
defsubst is an advanced construct. I think it is reasonable to give
fewer guarantees about its operation than we do for defun.
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-19 15:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-19 10:46 "simplifications" David Kastrup
2007-11-19 10:56 ` "simplifications" Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-19 15:11 ` "simplifications" Stefan Monnier
2007-11-19 15:19 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-11-19 15:39 ` "simplifications" Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-19 15:44 ` "simplifications" Stefan Monnier
2007-11-19 15:47 ` "simplifications" Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-19 15:58 ` "simplifications" Stefan Monnier
2007-11-19 16:08 ` "simplifications" Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-19 18:46 ` "simplifications" Stefan Monnier
2007-11-19 16:02 ` "simplifications" David Kastrup
2007-11-19 16:05 ` "simplifications" Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-20 3:59 ` "simplifications" Richard Stallman
2007-11-20 15:27 ` "simplifications" Stefan Monnier
2007-11-21 21:37 ` "simplifications" Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-21 21:52 ` "simplifications" David Kastrup
2007-11-22 1:34 ` "simplifications" Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-19 11:02 ` "simplifications" Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-19 11:33 ` "simplifications" Miles Bader
2007-11-19 11:57 ` "simplifications" David Kastrup
2007-11-19 12:08 ` "simplifications" Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-19 12:21 ` "simplifications" David Kastrup
2007-11-19 12:32 ` "simplifications" Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-19 12:49 ` "simplifications" David Kastrup
2007-11-19 12:54 ` "simplifications" Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-20 3:59 ` "simplifications" Richard Stallman
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