From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: Other details about completion. Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2022 19:43:44 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86pmlugt53.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <20220401153839.idrzrbfl2yfzga3y.ref@Ergus> <20220401153839.idrzrbfl2yfzga3y@Ergus> <86r16g92v5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20220401202425.jfrwqmkm3ffmcm5h@Ergus> <20220404193501.adojhz7uvvaoq4sj@Ergus> <86czhw4oqr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <4E8D9AEF-4D7A-4B11-822F-8D0911964A05@aol.com> <86bkxfibdo.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20220405232013.5y5jnr4ykzqgxqla@Ergus> <871qyaful0.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6230"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Ergus , Philip Kaludercic , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 06 18:52:59 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nc8tu-0001T9-BB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2022 18:52:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43706 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nc8ts-0008Hd-QR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2022 12:52:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nc8sq-0006xX-QM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2022 12:51:52 -0400 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::228]:35383) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nc8so-0007t0-O7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2022 12:51:52 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5EEDE1BF207; Wed, 6 Apr 2022 16:51:41 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <871qyaful0.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 06 Apr 2022 11:07:55 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::228; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287843 Archived-At: >> 1) I think it is more intuitive to invert and use the M-S- >> minibuffer-choose-** and M- for >> minibuffer-{previous|next}-completion for not insert commands... > > I was a bit surprised at how M- worked -- I had expected it to > work like M-S- works, really. But after using it a few times, I > think it the M- action makes more ergonomic sense, so I'd rather > keep it the way Juri has it now. I'm still unsure which is better. Maybe M- should not be different from M-? One of them navigates by lines, and another by screenfuls. But M- inserts the current completion to the minibuffer, whereas M- does not. Or maybe M- should insert the completion as well. >> 2) The M-/M- is not intuitive when completions are not in >> one-column format, and the M-/M- cannot be used because >> they are already taken.. > > I agree with that -- I expected M- to work on the visually > displayed completions, not the logical order. Unfortunately, M-/M- can't be used for visual navigation from the minibuffer.