From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cecilio Pardo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Will Emacs be ever available for iOS? Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 23:44:43 +0100 Message-ID: <86o98sytno.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> References: <87ftudj08q.fsf@nsacchetti.com> <87o98yixz5.fsf@nsacchetti.com> <874lanfpo1.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <86imz23fjd.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <8636q52sna.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <86zhsczbe2.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1546900970 3911 195.159.176.226 (7 Jan 2019 22:42:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 22:42:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (windows-nt) Cc: oub@mat.ucm.es, Cecilio Pardo , lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 07 23:42:45 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ggdbZ-0000us-EB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2019 23:42:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54028 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ggddg-0006jI-3J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:44:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45318) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ggddZ-0006iW-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:44:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ggddZ-00076e-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:44:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.135]:36955) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ggddV-0006tH-Cf; Mon, 07 Jan 2019 17:44:46 -0500 Original-Received: from there ([79.151.177.158]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.142]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MtwQm-1haX6j3doi-00uEhf; Mon, 07 Jan 2019 23:44:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 07 Jan 2019 15:14:50 -0500") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:g4BUVwrpyK1G5cnbbZqEeo59voziFkXS6qFZMtY62egMw/t7oUN 8zEjIl9Fx27rcYUJREQpYNFcrtpyQOI+Dr+A2JjbQ5gr8roDt39luZfkAXZDZTTKHt6IWk+ DA8O/c9pN65fha+vOSOoAMzSJ8Vg96Fk6+hzkcLFztGpa4k+9xXeWC0Q2CN8n95mnxQ1yJc xse7i3KokY/GFVmVO/Lsw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:S1hkmh37b2A=:U/R861LlJ7iFFxM12bcFz5 oCArQS258izJYmoT9oBoyZHO5pRYdSUClhI/hKdFUWZpq+8Qpcm9kmuk112Td9iwORmqSewLi wO5zKPrNlmlVRU5f01thRiMcRxm0stth3Qy1iGFOIJk3YjZlUeWbXmRZsLiIXda6XvD5+ULke co0MU9vJUKy2blzH73XEw8NqHWXd+4Ag5dQKYuYc/5bC5YefY1OoCn+za0ZiaYSmG29jbXwFe dNhKglnKJ1HkVDOVAXewTbJOW3NLQTg5iP475xqAlscoH8FrBQhGDt+qKitUNSj8TvYd/aCjs 5Jb/CoHTJuIoiShbsMz0bKWUQfTEIT+HrurHENGGWXbEYiDSMAowFb2vRUjCLF5xbwzYgclhE c8oXXtPWq6ZTdrlM0l8Mu7Mt9lrxx8QI3FY9wMWeOI990VZqBaiZAqokVmLy2rRSj91N9c+3x zSGttHXi/9NtiB3YmQXoE9sZyugZ9Ol2aw4qu4mpwE1KNprGQMoVopHit5ssu39ZF9wOueZXt MwiAYf3/pE6b19rk6Uike5y8LdfB+DfEQBeV8IV/XZq8sDYuJV6tcRb4M34xysvjNYuA2gW+z FfoYm6tmRcZ8x6SxTVlAAVG/P9eoDh7sI5EbaU8jMqOU1lYD+/4MsN8xMV93X2G0R5LR3M6oW i+1OQGRDJteTa780EyrxkXap2pxRq5KTw4ciT8HrAWdzz4dr6c6N4bFI137e0QPwA5EEvnOIi eJswvsAe3CCPuZOxAibz99hniOC9YLQLfsLribZ80eEO4zy5H5fryhsbpns= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.135 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:232241 Archived-At: > Are we certain that popcorn is violating Apple's rules, > and Apple is declining to take the action to shut it down? I'm certain that they are in violation of the rules. They are using unsuitable certificates, even expired and/or revoked ones. There is no question about that. The installers ask you to trust an Enterprise developer, and Enterprise development is restricted to internal use. Apple revokes the certificates, forcing them to circumvent the protection, I don't know how. Why don't they do more? Probably because there are many services that do the same thing, and they just don't care enough to put the resources to shut them down, but I don't know. -- Cecilio Pardo