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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293538 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Cc: emacs-devel >> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 15:04:56 -0400 >> >> > I'd like to add a package ada-lite-mode to ELPA; code attached. The >> > intent is to be a mode for Ada files that's easier to install than the >> > current ELPA ada-mode. >> >> Sounds good, as long as the other ada-mode will be modified to (require >> and) derive from (or extend) ada-lite. >> >> Currently, if both ada-mode and ada-lite packages are installed and >> activated, their autoloads will fight for the top spot of >> `auto-mode-alist`. > > Would it make sense to have the lite mode in core? I don't think so; that would mean any use of ada-mode would cause a conflict in auto-mode-alist. Hmm; if all core package autoloads are executed before all ELPA package autoloads, that would at least be deterministic; if the ELPA package is installed and active, it's entry is first in auto-mode-alist and thus always wins. If both are ELPA packages, the order probably depends on file-system sorting, or sorting on the package name, or something equally obscure. -- -- Stephe