From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 6a2ee981c3: Add new functions for splitting the root window Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 22:29:53 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86o7vks8he.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <166240424802.11417.12502552895310232639@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220905185728.838CEC0088A@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <86h71kseiw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87illzmjew.fsf@gnus.org> <868rmvxdvj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87bkrq5bmb.fsf@gnus.org> <87pmg69ifi.fsf@gmail.com> <87h71i3vr3.fsf@gnus.org> <864jxfghcf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sfkygokp.fsf@gnus.org> <87r10hg5u7.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <87edwgbexe.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35591"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Stefan Monnier , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Robert Pluim , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Hugo Heagren To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 12 21:36:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oXpE7-0008yz-7i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 21:36:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41778 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oXpE6-00067o-AZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 15:36:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46128) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oXpAq-00030S-2x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 15:32:52 -0400 Original-Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::230]:58431) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oXpAn-0002C0-6d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 15:32:51 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BDEE3240003; Mon, 12 Sep 2022 19:32:40 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87edwgbexe.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (Sean Whitton's message of "Mon, 12 Sep 2022 11:55:41 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::230; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay10.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295223 Archived-At: >> Of course, it'd also be nice to bring together/closer the root and >> non-root variants of those operations, but I have no good suggestion >> here, other than to suggest to use a new command which doesn't accept >> a numeric argument at all and only uses `C-u` to choose between a root >> split and non-root split. That's because I personally never use that >> numeric argument, and prefer to resize the windows afterwards rather >> than try to guess sizes beforehand. The existing commands could use `C-u` to choose between root/non-root too. Then there is no need to have a new command. > This seems especially important given that the -root-window- > commands are not going to see heavy use, compared with, e.g., > fit-window-to-buffer (where C-x w - follows C-x -). > > (2) again given that the -root-window- commands will be rarely used, I > think the similarity with the existing commands will make 'C-x w 2' > and 'C-x w 3' easier to memorise / recall-with-effort. Since they will be rarely used, they could be bound to a more consistent key sequence 'C-x w r 2' and 'C-x w r 3' where "w r" means "window-root", freeing 'C-x w 2' and 'C-x w 3' for other uses.