From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "About Emacs" page Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 09:41:05 +0300 Message-ID: <86o74i7rpa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a5g36bsy.fsf@posteo.net> <87v7yr11oi.fsf@dataswamp.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23197"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 20 08:41:38 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1srXKk-0005vo-8z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:41:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srXKH-0000QR-U9; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 02:41:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srXKG-0000QI-GM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 02:41:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srXKF-0000FY-Bl; Fri, 20 Sep 2024 02:41:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=LUCuTPLHP8RrevADiyG/pPwBe7k8Yk2xxya0BUgV/lE=; b=k1dJqlRPV1qm PimeUAmhYMne1quup6AzwTLsgHVAGV0+AoihXGeNLqnvytttS5vZAyVershrK4J6L6FgV5dXWbZmc DucGgrPirkxHDpLDBkQWXq/aL8LKzm0u6QYFb0fIWDhOtdhs76B/zdKdLimd2Jke9hA1MsPdalyKx V/I4yd1aQ15SR4cI3tBETJmfOD1afTt8ssYJxtlGHQB009aQtRgyNsnQLbbUt6hjypCw/vUpeVQeZ xq3mbM5MJH6iusyEQtsz4it/ytOBksy8UHlNeVrYBlG125T2w11L+tttz+uhjsjfqKWplpBJ4i+we 98lWl+BW4uXWugk9tItAdg==; In-Reply-To: <87v7yr11oi.fsf@dataswamp.org> (message from Emanuel Berg on Fri, 20 Sep 2024 04:47:25 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323813 Archived-At: > From: Emanuel Berg > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 04:47:25 +0200 > > That logo absolutely does not look modern, and I doubt that it > is - when is it from? It doesn't say on the Emacs wiki. [1] > Looks like something from the early days of the Internet. It's from 2015, less than 10 years ago. Yes, time flies, and the false "modernity" sense flies with it. > We should _be_ modern and looking modern is a huge part > of that. We should also be different from all the rest of fashion-driven world. There's nothing wrong with the logo, it's a little puzzle in itself, if you want. P.S. I agree with Philip that starting this kind of discussions from points like this one is a bad idea. History teaches us that doing so quickly makes the discussion fruitless. We should first discuss the content, not the form and/or order of items on menus etc.