From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add function to rotate/transpose all windows Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:03:04 +0200 Message-ID: <86o7100y2v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87setpdv21.fsf@gmail.com> <878qt8spp2.fsf@gmail.com> <0ce35c7a-8b28-4905-a6ab-caf50f2fc750@gmx.at> <87mshl2i6h.fsf@gmail.com> <9b460366-f34e-48f6-a680-e7fa5bc7f598@gmx.at> <87bjy03fql.fsf@gmail.com> <356d63bc-818c-428c-b31b-a0eb227b3a8a@gmx.at> <87o720gjst.fsf@gmail.com> <7dfe87a0-b367-47df-86df-f8fd95163fd6@gmx.at> <8734jbz8sb.fsf@gmail.com> <50ab6c0a-6afb-4727-9094-178668fc4f4e@gmx.at> <87zflfc3cd.fsf@gmail.com> <87y10ycxv6.fsf@gmail.com> <87mshbiiee.fsf@bauherren.ovh> <30c31060-6be4-4dab-8e49-c6f543821ea5@gmx.at> <87y10ecxk9.fsf@bauherren.ovh> <787e1cf0-810c-4eea-8d89-03ee83f67807@gmx.at> <87ikr97u86.fsf@bauherren.ovh> <87msglr2zx.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86frmd2q71.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29206"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: juri@linkov.net, rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Pranshu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 25 13:03:29 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tQQ6q-0007UN-Dw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 13:03:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQQ6c-00013t-Gl; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 07:03:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQQ6a-00013a-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 07:03:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQQ6X-0004Er-GR; Wed, 25 Dec 2024 07:03:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ZEnJ1gSbSrwR1rYdBoX9Qja0IR4DQi0nyztjmWM9NEM=; b=i9qhUtazbOLt8ZW/oijJ H/f12B5GtQEYnSbxSs/21K850kR/Q8igJfatr52d+nVMmjjmh/BG/mlfMtg58vyYf34Ha0kd9yVQ0 q5UJXEXyL0bzeiK3ot+XIwbJLB4XMdoKKxEeffB9hu+cXZMRhvTmHZ2LVHYVsyCjsNmaEmQWfU2zN Bu4ipNQ0Ew10209WKTy/P5eBZIAv+uTeLh/teu7ZJxWDHP0IZ+zpUsVjt6DWUffP/FWGHT5FsD9YF zilMfU+p/3bmSlz/uA/qaPqA8bIJ0SQ6d5cM8SwwCs4TutVBZkek8zOVOri4GyDOJTdgywzuCamfy cleR9pn6kdvKwQ==; In-Reply-To: (message from Pranshu on Wed, 25 Dec 2024 07:05:19 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327076 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 07:05:19 +0800 > From: Pranshu > CC: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On 24 December 2024 8:58:10 pm GMT+08:00, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > >Why are we allocating key bindings to commands before they are enough > >time in use to know whether they will be used frequently enough to > >justify a default binding? There's nothing wrong with a command which > >has no bindings, there are gobs of them in Emacs. > > how will we know if or not a binding is used frequently? By listening to users who ask for a binding. Also, by using this command ourselves and paying attention to the frequency of such uses. > IMO binding commands makes it more discoverable How so? > and a specific window prefix map exists solely for this purpose. The prefix map exists for the purpose of binding window-related commands, but it has no bearing on the decision whether to provide a binding in the first place. > >Let's not rush into reserving key bindings we are not sure will be > >needed, because it will be nigh impossible to change or remove them later. > > I didn't know situation was that bad, maybe someday I will read M-g change mailing list just for entertainment. I don't think I understand what you are saying here.